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Dec 28, 2009 14:59

While I don't condone the violent actions objectors have taken towards the Watch, I also don't approve of this witch hunt. What happened to the openness the Watch claimed it would maintain? They aren't even off the ground and already they are trying to suppress negative opinions ( Read more... )

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therealplan December 28 2009, 23:06:25 UTC
You sound rather sure of his absence.

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 03:56:05 UTC
We have a unique bond that allows me to know.

-Aurora

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AKA GAY LOVERS therealplan December 29 2009, 04:57:21 UTC
Unique bond?

Maybe we should meet in the Wilderness, then. I have some information that could be useful.

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SECRET LO~~~~~VAA~~~~~S earth_uninstall December 30 2009, 18:19:37 UTC
That's a strange locale to pick as a rendezvous point, but if you have any information at all, I would appreciate it.

-Aurora

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sins_sacrosanct December 28 2009, 23:46:10 UTC
Yours is an interesting angle on this situation. I would not have characterized a completed murder and several attempts as negative opinions. Perhaps, though, my perspective needs correcting.

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 03:57:06 UTC
Why else would a person target members of the Watch? It's either a deliberate choice or a complete coincidence, and considering the people and timing, I'm inclined to believe the former.

-Aurora

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sins_sacrosanct December 29 2009, 04:37:23 UTC
I would incline to believe that any person who might stop this Watch, which is as I understand it a peacekeeping force, from being formed is someone who would be harmed by its forming--in other words, an inept criminal.

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earth_uninstall December 30 2009, 18:25:20 UTC
Without a judicial branch or elections by the people, the Watch is practically authoritarian. This doesn't bother you at all, that someone decided to set up a "police" force under their own authority? While he did address the public, it was only after a private meeting with a select number of hand chosen people, ones in positions of power.

-Aurora

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extantlaw December 29 2009, 00:36:51 UTC
There is no witch hunt, and no one's opinion is being suppressed. To the contrary, I would suggest that the only victims of attempted suppression have been the Watch themselves.

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 04:02:58 UTC
There has been mention of documenting everything that has been happening to people of the Watch, and the detention of suspects says otherwise. I do agree that the Watch is also being suppressed, but it's going both ways.

-Aurora

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extantlaw December 29 2009, 11:27:00 UTC
I note that nothing you say is being inked or otherwise removed. The only person suffering from that has been Stoneface. You are not being prevented from speaking out and nor is anyone else.

Documenting everything that has happened to the Watch is merely common sense, shoudl a pattern emerge that provides information on who may have perpetrated the attacks. There is no guarantee that attacks will remain confinmed to the Watch in future.

The suspect who is being detained was not apprehended by the Watch. The person in question surrendered themselves to the Guard.

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Parts inked out immediately earth_uninstall December 30 2009, 18:31:55 UTC
The person who inked Stoneface's entry did it out of stupidity, not malicious intent. And his suffering has been self inflicted; if he'd handle the Watch better, perhaps people wouldn't have been adverse to it.

He willingly What proof do you have that the suspect wasn't forced to surrender themselves?

-Aurora

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ice_echani December 29 2009, 00:38:37 UTC
I fail to see any evidence of a witch hunt, nor of witholding information as Stoneface went to the effort of rewriting his entry when it was vandalized.

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 04:05:42 UTC
The point of withhold information is so people generally don't know it has been witheld.

The only reason he rewrote that entry was to maintain his 'documentation' of what has been done to members of the Watch. That sounds like the beginning of a witch hunt to me.

-Aurora

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ice_echani December 29 2009, 04:12:22 UTC
Is your logic that information is being witheld because you do not know if it exists? By that reasoning, we may also be hiding the secrets of many things in Edensphere.

It is documentation of crimes that have been committed. If the Scavengers had been targeted, the procedure would be the same.

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 04:23:54 UTC
The information about the suspect's identity is being withheld. It doesn't bother you that a potentially innocent person, one you may or may not care about, is being treated like a hostage?

Such behavior is unprecedented. We have no "procedure," not one that has been agreed upon and established. Because of that, by definition this is not lawful behavior.

-Aurora

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stonyfaced December 29 2009, 01:48:28 UTC
[No answer--yet. He's watching the comments, but it's worth noting that there's a large inkblot that comes with him snapping his pen in half. AURORA I HATE YOU fml fml fml, etc.]

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earth_uninstall December 29 2009, 04:07:35 UTC
[ooc: &hearts ]

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