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Aug 02, 2004 17:06

If a blind man and a man with perfect vision are together in a dark room, then they are both equal. It is only when the room is illuminated that their differences are apparent; the man who has his sight can see the light, whereas the blind man is still in darkness ( Read more... )

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yosoyart August 2 2004, 16:21:06 UTC
Yeah huh?

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christyisemo August 2 2004, 17:39:59 UTC
you seriously need to read House of Leaves

It would answer above question in the most confusing way possible.

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edgeofsummerx August 2 2004, 17:48:56 UTC
Which part of the question? The part about there being a middle point in infinity or about existance without a beginning or end? I already kinda realised an answer to the first question, about the middle point...imaginary numbers give a point of intersection that could justify zero being the middle (the point where two infinite strings intersect at a number that is found on both strings and means the same on both strings definately justifies a middle point). I still don't understand how something can exist without having a beginning or an end tho...the area between the beginning and end is the substance, but without a beginning or end there is no area between the two, so there is no substance, which means there is nothing.

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christyisemo August 2 2004, 18:07:11 UTC
you're giving nothing a value by doing that though, so you're contradicting yourself. nothing has no defenition. nothing is nothing. maybe the beginning overlaps the end before it begins again?

and the book has this big long thing with being able to see darkness without actually seeing. like, the guy who wrote the book about seeing these amazing things- about "what we see, how we see and what in turn we can't see. Over and over again, in one form or another, he returns to the subject of light, space, shape, line, color, focus, tone, contrast, movement, rhythm, perspective and composition." He's writing about this movie which "somehow captures the most difficult subject of all: the sight of darkness itself." The guy was blind. So it's spiffy and kinda strange.

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edgeofsummerx August 2 2004, 18:10:10 UTC
i'm not giving nothing a value, i'm just saying that it shares the same properties on both the imaginary number axis and the regular number axis. nothing is nothing on both the imaginary number axis and the regular number axis. that is an interesting thought tho...about the beginning overlapping the end before it begins again.

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hellagoodstar August 2 2004, 17:55:51 UTC
yeah i think that zero would be the middle if you had to find a middle, but with infinity you can't have a middle, you're right. it's really weird, all of this. your posts are always so philisophical. thanks for that :)

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edgeofsummerx August 2 2004, 18:02:19 UTC
Yeah, but I did realise after I made that edit that imaginary numbers justify a middle. haha, read the comment I made to Christy above this one if you want an explaination.

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hellagoodstar August 2 2004, 18:22:12 UTC
ok.

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robolean August 2 2004, 19:48:41 UTC
A circle doesn't have a beginning or end and if infinity is curved like that, then everything is the middle.

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edgeofsummerx August 2 2004, 19:59:36 UTC
Good point. However, that's assuming infinity is a loop...which means that in the case of numbers they would end where they begin. You could assume that negative numbers are the numbers that you get once you reach the finite end and start subtracting from what you have to get back to zero, which would then continue on to that finite number and come back to zero once again. That would mean that infinity is a loop, like a circle. But there IS no finite number that you could reach to start coming back down to zero, so that means the numbers keep going out in their own directions (negative one way and positive the other) and never meet.

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scarletbigonias August 2 2004, 20:26:22 UTC
ah. i wish... i could have a long contradiction, or attempt at an explination...

okay okay no i dont. you have too much free time at work. and at home. your a dorkface, and i havent seen you or mattypoo in a long time. and that sucks. you guys should come swiming.

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edgeofsummerx August 2 2004, 20:46:19 UTC
haha, it's not that i have too much time on my hands, it's that my brain has been running on overdrive the last month or so. all this reading is making me think about things more and more and in a more objective and "questioning" manner.

anyway, you never call or message me or ask to hang out, so i always figure you're busy or something. i'll message ya if i see ya on sometime...but call a brotha up or something.

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