FOUR ♦ VOICE | DAY 16, SUNSET

Oct 26, 2011 12:07

"Don't eat the pumpkins", huh? That's a new one. I doubt it'll be any more interesting than the last "mission", but sure. Maybe this time I'll play along ( Read more... )

re: anders, #audio, mao ephedra glandol, re: shinjiro aragaki, re: i-pin, *day 16, re: neku sakuraba

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[video] magerights October 28 2011, 00:59:54 UTC
A price? Whatever happened to helping others simply because you could?

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[video] toxicinvestment October 28 2011, 02:15:56 UTC
That's not my style. I'm not wasting time or materials if I don't get anything back.

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[video] magerights October 28 2011, 02:20:56 UTC
How about gratitude? Doing things because it's right? Or even on the off chance that someone you help will help you in return some day, whether you ask it or not? Are you really going to turn people away if they can offer you nothing?

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[video] toxicinvestment October 28 2011, 02:50:11 UTC
I don't need any of that. Other people are unnecessary. Charity is for people who can afford it.

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[video] magerights October 28 2011, 05:56:39 UTC
You really think you could survive here entirely on your own, no help from anyone?

[He doesn't believe that incredibly likely, something his voice makes obvious.]

And what do you mean by 'afford it'? Not everyone only helps by giving out things they can afford to lose.

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[video] FUCK HTML /sob toxicinvestment October 28 2011, 06:07:07 UTC
Is that what you think?

[He's a pretty cynical kind of guy. For a teenager, he has little to no faith in anything, and he has no problem showing that he's not gloomy about it.]

There's no such thing as that kind of selflessness. No one gives what they can't afford. If you give your last bit of cash, food, or anything else to someone, it's because you know you can live without it. If you give your life for someone, it's because your own life is a smaller price to pay than theirs. At this point, it's a higher risk to get involved with strangers than it is not to, so I need compensation.

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[video] YEAH, WHO NEEDS IT ANYWAY magerights October 28 2011, 06:16:47 UTC
So you don't think someone might give their own life without thinking of the worth of another, say, saving a stranger they'd never met before? People don't always weight up how much something is worth before they do it.

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[video] toxicinvestment October 28 2011, 06:29:59 UTC
If you're giving your life for someone you don't know, you don't value yourself very much, do you? You're still making the decision to do it. Even if it's too fast to think it out consciously, you're still deciding to risk or give up your own life, which means that you consider your life something you can afford to lose.

Anyway, a normal person will freeze with shock in that kind of moment. It's natural to preserve yourself. Your body won't let you die without at least subconsciously making the conclusion that doing so is worth it.

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magerights October 30 2011, 13:17:39 UTC
[More frustrating than anything is that Anders can't tell if he finds the conversation irritating because the man isn't listening to him, or if it's because he has a point that the mage doesn't like to think about.]

So you're saying you won't help others because you think you're worth more than them, and anyone who does otherwise is only doing it because they think they're worthless?

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toxicinvestment October 30 2011, 16:05:17 UTC
You're making it too black and white, but that's about it. People do things that they think are worth it. To me, giving away my help isn't worth it. Their gratitude means nothing to me.

[He's crossing his arms and leaning back about now, completely relaxed.]

There's only one person whose well-being is worth any sacrifice from me.

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magerights October 31 2011, 11:58:22 UTC
Really. And who's that supposed to be?

[Yeah, he's a little bitter about the 'black and white' comment and makes no effort to hide it.]

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toxicinvestment November 1 2011, 04:35:45 UTC
[Mao just snorts at Anders' obvious annoyance.]

That would be the king of my country.

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magerights November 2 2011, 12:23:14 UTC
Is that because you actually care about him or because you have to?

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toxicinvestment November 2 2011, 16:25:22 UTC
Hmm, I wonder. Without him, out entire region would be a war-ridden mess. If I didn't defend him, a lot of people would suffer.

[He shrugs, then smiles, maybe just a little warmer than before.]

Then again, I don't care that much about politics. I'd protect him regardless of social station.

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magerights November 4 2011, 10:26:53 UTC
Hmm, so maybe you're not that inhuman after all.

[There's probably some sort of irony to that fact that he's the one saying that.]

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toxicinvestment November 4 2011, 17:56:01 UTC
What, you think being practical is inhuman?

Then again... I think he might agree with you on some counts. He really cares about the country, although that could also be said to be a matter of his perception of worth.

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