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True Confessions, Part II

Nov 06, 2011 21:36

I have attempted to explain double MPREG, and why it is so awesome to multiple people, none of whom had heard of MPREG in the first place.

I have no shame about fandom. None at all.

After reading the story which featured Jeeves, clone of Jeeves, and Bertie,I probably should. But I totally don't.

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so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 01:31:05 UTC

http://copracat.dreamwidth.org/596794.html?thread=2267962&style=mine#cmt2267962

It's a long thread, but here's the crux of it:

Sanders:
Jinjur created the writeboard (internal brainstorming form thing) for a strategic plan in December of last year, so literally one of her first acts with the new board, has been quietly working on laying the groundwork for it in cooperation with a group of us, and when Jenny, Julia and I mentioned it in our candidate statements in October of this year that we wanted a plan and were working in various ways toward one, we were ordered to stop immediately until the board could decide whether Jinjur really was allowed to do what the board had already told her to do.

Copracat:
Let me make sure I have this correctly:

The chair of the board has been told by someone/s to stop working on a strategic plan for the organisation because she doesn't have the authority to do so. Jinjurly (Allison ( ... )

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 01:38:57 UTC

Wow. Just wow. And the rest of the board didn't protest?

I can see now why people think there will only be progress once the founders leave the board.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 01:40:46 UTC

Given that like half the board is currently leaving for "personal reasons," and candidates are dropping out before they even begin to try, they probably recognized that they were beyond being able to protest at that point.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 01:47:33 UTC

+1

Honestly, I think NN is going to be voted and it will be very bad for OTW.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:02:31 UTC

I think it's going to take a really spectacular failure clearly linked to NN to get her voted out. As it is now, look how people have been so reluctant to name her as responsible for certain controversial things? The voters are not going to vote her out unless it is clear there is some concrete reason not to vote her in.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:10:42 UTC

And this is where the power issue comes up, of volunteers/internal members not having the ability to vote, because they KNOW she needs to be voted out. But actual paying members who stand off to the side and donate without knowing much about what really goes on will probably tend to blindly support NN and FC

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 09:03:01 UTC

Yup. OTW is looking more and more like a social club for NN and her friends rather than an non-profit organization.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:20:38 UTC

Right now, one board member is on hiatus until the end of term, at which point her board term will be over, another is on hiatus, but coming back next year (as of now), and two are quitting their terms early because of this shit.

Protesting NN and FC's shit has, up to this point, only led to verbal abuse and stonewalling. Those board members who admit there are problems are running out of the wherewithal to even try to protest.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 07:43:07 UTC

Not saying anything is the politically smart thing to do for NN, but it is a shit way to run an organization. And anything you've read so far about FC being hard to work with/for is understated, not overstated.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 08:22:37 UTC

It's the way NN typically deals with any kind of controversy, and normally it works for her. But here it's a bad way to deal with the problem because she's explicitly running for a political office. Also, I think she really should address Jinjur and Renay's criticisms. We'll see, I guess, if she does.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 09:44:44 UTC

DD about FC, nonnie, if you can? I've heard lots of stuff about NN but the thing about FC stonewalling the strategic plan is the first concrete thing I've heard and I am all D:!

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 01:44:12 UTC

Jinjur: "but. yeah. it still didn't happen. and the idea that we ever wouldn't be top-down and hierarchical in deciding what is best for fans (also, the idea that we give lip-service to different fannish cultures and diversity while simultaneously insisting there is only a single correct answer, and the little people should stfu and let us give it to them), is why i am out. i am not a fighter, i am not assertive in the face of belittling and condescension, and that (among other things) means i can not do any good at all for this org. and continuing to try in the way i have been the past 14 months will actively damage my health to no result. so. <3"

Holy crap. Then this means the critics were quite correct that there is belittling and condescension and high-handedness going on in the org, if this is what the chair of the board herself says.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:07:19 UTC

and the idea that we ever wouldn't be top-down and hierarchical in deciding what is best for fans (also, the idea that we give lip-service to different fannish cultures and diversity while simultaneously insisting there is only a single correct answer, and the little people should stfu and let us give it to them),

From the beginning, this was the one (of many) things that made me leery of the OTW. All fans are equal, but some are more equal than others. Sadly, it would appear my apprehension was correct.

Fandom is too big, too unwieldy and far too diverse (especially those fandoms that have been ignored since OTW's inception) to place in a box with only a small group of self-proclaimed BNFs leaders who believe they can set the tone for a diverse and somewhat adversarial group(s) who have been perfectly thriving on their own for at least more than 100 years.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:09:55 UTC

I have always been irritated at the media-fandom-centric unconscious bias of OTW, but it seems that people are determined to keep it that way. However, one positive thing is that people at high levels in the organization do seem to be aware of it... well, they're leaving also, so I guess the only thing one can say is that those persons determined to keep it that way were warned.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:35:40 UTC

media-fandom-centric unconscious bias of OTW, but it seems that people are determined to keep it that way

This has always frustrated me to the point of anger. I'm in older and pretty tiny fandoms, and nothing OTW has ever expressed in print or to the press represents me. To them, I don't exist, and have been basically been told that I really have no value to the organisation, and that if I want to receive any sort of respect or recognition that I'd have to work my ass off as a volunteer to receive any recognition.

Frankly, I'm not looking for hierarchical recognition in the organisation, but I do feel that my worth as a fan (small fandom or not) is as equal to some one in SPN, NU/original Star Trek, or even Friends.

And it's not fair that I would have to work twice as hard (gee, sound familiar?) as a volunteer to get half the recognition as someone in a much larger fandom. And this goes hand-in-hand with all that non-existent volunteer burnout that's been making the rounds.

Re: so can we talk about how NN and FC are telling the President of OTW what to do? anonymous November 13 2011, 02:25:10 UTC

Right now one Board Member is on hiatus until her term ends after the election, one is on hiatus, but coming back next year and two are quitting their terms early because of this shit.

Also, we just lost one candidate, because she already was worn out from pushing back against FC and NN just during the election cycle.

I feel like all of that just speaks for itself. I love the OTW, and I'm truly unsure whether it can survive Naomi and Cesca both being on the Board together again.

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