for what is hate?

Jan 26, 2006 17:05

FOR THOSE WHO SAY THEY 'HATE' KIRITO (as a person) JUST BECAUSE OF HIS SOLO CAREER
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fenixsuzaku January 26 2006, 23:55:19 UTC
I love PIERROT equally as much as solo!KIRITO and I'm glad there's people who share my great respect for him <3

man I sound way too serious D:

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 20:29:03 UTC
they're just jealous D:

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floopy3 January 27 2006, 00:24:43 UTC
Wtf people actually think that way? DD:

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 00:39:47 UTC
I've seen flames on mp3 rotations and various livejournals
it makes me SAD =(

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loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 00:54:02 UTC
Well... Those aren't any of the reasons why I don't like Kirito's solo career. <3

1st) Most of the songs suck (take "cannabis" as an example. It's horrible) ~ Not saying all of them do. "Plot" and "The sun" look a lot like PIERROT works. I don't deny their are 'not bad'.
But still, exactly for the reason that he wanted to do a different kind of work, is that it is not as good as PIERROT. At least, not enough to please my ears.

2nd) I don't like 'sold out' artists. By that I mean... Artists that _really_ do anything to sell themselves. Artists that does lots of different types of the same single just because they know there will be fanatic fans that will buy it. It's exploring people who love them. "selling themselves" is quite commom at such a world as the music industry. Most bands do it. PIERROT do it a bit. But not that much. Having a website where you have t pay to see stuff was reason enought to consider Kirito's solo career as "sold out" <3 ( ... )

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 01:27:17 UTC
1. I've said it before, I respect everyone's tastes in music, it's perfectly alright to dislike the music from his solo career

2. just as with FOLLOWERS-only pages on the PIERROT website (which does need paid entrance), Kirito's site is the same, except it seems Kirito's site has less information for the general audience. that's just because Kirito's solo career has hardly started and there's not much info to begin with. I mean, you see his discography, biography, news, online shop, all free just like on the PIERROT site. but PIERROT's site has no 'diary', thus it seems like everything is 'free'.
I agree that the type-a type-b thing is very inconsiderate of the poorer fans, but I don't think it was ever considered during PIERROT's earlier releases. I mean, only recently (after MYCLOUD) has companies started selling the CDs in different types ne? it's like a new 'trend' that the companies choose to use to market their products. if Kirito protests, he will probably dropped from the label (as he's not one of those 'most coveted' artists ( ... )

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loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 01:59:12 UTC
1) Yup. True o.o

2) Like I've said at another of your posts at LJ... I don't exactly blame Kirito. But all the circunstamces together. The company/label...
And I also don't like when PIERROT does that ((But as I said, it kinda happens to most artists ~ With some more than with others))
Kirito is also being cover of most magazines out there. Too many! It's not normal. It's too much "selling by image". I didn't comment that before because it's also usual with major musicians. But again, with some more than with others.
With Miyavi and Gackr, for example, witch I consider "sold out" artist... It happens a lot. They are in almost all magazines. Image... Image... No music.

3) I don't care If it's an act of if it's not. He created it. And I love that character. No matter it's real Kirito or not. He can't just simply kill that character when there are tons of people that love it.If, from the start, he wantes to smile and be himself.... Why did he create such a character ( ... )

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loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 02:06:30 UTC
PLEASE do NOT misunderstand my last sentence !!!!!
I was IRONIC!!!! ~ I am NOT saying, in any ciscunstances, that I think Kirito does not consider PIERROT.
I KNOW HE DOES!
That's exactly why I was sarcastic/ironic.

PIERROT means a lot to him... As he have said tons of times. So... It is only natural to me to think PIERROT, since the indies times, was his dream. Isn't it?

When you say the solo career is his dream. It looks like PIERROT was never that loved by Kirito. It seems he was only waiting the right time to do a solo career.
But he loves PIERROT... we know. That's why I don't think the solo career is a "dream". I don't like to see treat it as if it was.

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crosshack January 27 2006, 02:08:00 UTC
well that sucks if people think of him that way..
l'arc en ciel stopped for about 2 years to work on each of their solos, which i think it was like a break for laruku (i think.. but i do know it's a momentary 'break') and they came back with a seven days live in 2002. maybe people didn't think of laruku that way because they did stop l'arc productions for solo stuff.. So I'm guessing people didn't like since it's only Kirito that has a solo.. =X
..that still sucks.... =/

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 02:40:29 UTC
hence the =(

I hate it especially since people seem to use it as a 'trend'. people who haven't even heard the albums seem to say 'I hate Kirito for leaving PIERROT, so his solo work must be *insert synonym for bad here*'

bah, Laraku's just plain darn famous, and each of the members get their own huge following due to popularity.

*sigh*

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crosshack January 27 2006, 02:46:14 UTC
actually.. only hyde does, and tetsu69 mostly does music for anime (Saiyuki) and manga (Nana)... which is not that much
S.O.A.P. is ok popular 'cause I've seen them in a magazine once...once.. their songs are ok
and acid android I dunno what happened.. I can never find their songs, only lives.. I have to say that yukihiro's singing is quite unique... =X
(i don't do well just listening to lives.. i need to hear cd recorded quality to conclude whether i like it or not) =S

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 02:55:03 UTC
I'm saying the band as a whole is darn famous. and of course, the two most 'good-looking' members are considered the most popular. that's just how pop-culture works ^^v
I've heard of SOAP on lots of jrock sharing comms and Acid Android appears once in a while (the drummers are always under-apprediated aren't they?)
I prefer listening to lives. it gives the song more emotion ♥

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miya_vi January 27 2006, 06:45:12 UTC
i love the man, not his music *makes a face* ~(=3=)~

I'd rather listen to PIERROT than Kirito music. Long live Kirito, dictator, solo Gackt, whatever he may be. That is all ^^

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fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 12:52:42 UTC
=(
but Kirito does much more than write music, so that's fine.
he's got a hell of a charisma too, you just can't fight the addiction ♥

I have to agree PIERROT is still number1 in my musical rankings, but Kirito makes it to number2 at least =3=
and he's still my favorite person in the world XD;

solo Gackt is now the Eiffel Tower remember? 8D;
MORE COMICS. NOW. *begs*

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