The Floor Is Now Open For Discussion

Apr 07, 2004 13:03

Food for thought, these questions have been running through my head, please, give me your answers. Any and all thoughts are welcome and appreciated ( Read more... )

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fashionpassion April 7 2004, 14:11:45 UTC
laughing: i think it can be both. i think that certain you laugh because you know you should or you think it would be appropriate. At the same time though there are times when i am laughing so hard that there is no way it could just be a conditioned response, it would have to be so much more, in fact pure enjoyment ( ... )

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flipgod April 7 2004, 14:40:53 UTC
Ahh, my large hearted, poetic friend, I would have expected no less then answers as wonderful as these from you. However, in light of your answer to the last question, I have another, if you didn't receive the attention as a child, does that open up a possibility for the opposite? Could a person starved for affection in turn, end up completely clingy and to some degree co-dependant, perhaps even be too willing to say 'I love you' without really knowing what it is to be in love?

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fashionpassion April 9 2004, 22:50:35 UTC
yes, i think that is exactly what happens. children grow up and realize that they need love, that they are missing love, and that they will search for it. The problem is they look in th all the wrong places, open legs, bottles, the boy next door who smokes with them. There are millions of people who are searching with everything to find something to fill a void. They say i love you and don't mean it they say it because they think that will make the other person love them. make the other person stick around and show them some type of affection/attention.

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dragonscat April 7 2004, 16:31:15 UTC
Smiling is a learned response. Studies done in orphanages etc. have found that children who are given regular affection and positive interaction smile and laugh more than children who are raised in places where they can't get enough affection. And blind people don't learn to smile as soon because they can't see their parents smile. I don't know how we really learn what to smile at though. If it was all environmental, how would people develop their own views about what's funny or touching or [insert feeling invoking a smiley response here]?

I could probably come up with some responses to the other stuff, too; I rather agree with your last statement on crying. But I'm hungry and tired now, so I'm going go eat instead.

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flipgod April 7 2004, 16:50:10 UTC
Interesting, I did not know that about the smile studies. But if if is a learned response, and the blind don't learn it as quickly, how is there an explanation of them learning it at all?

Any thoughts on the other subjects are always welcome, but since you brought up the staement on crying, do you think that is applicable to tears of loss and sorrow? When somebody you love dies, and you know that you aren't going to get attention from them, why would you still do it? And what of the people that want to be alone when they cry, wether it be for the reasons of loss or not? Are they really not sure what they want and should we force them into social situations to get the attention that deep down they may really need?

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twilitmoon April 7 2004, 17:55:27 UTC
Personally, I think laughter is natural. I find it hard to pretend to laugh at something I don't think is funny. Maybe it's just me ( ... )

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flipgod April 7 2004, 18:17:02 UTC
If laughter is a natural response, then that goes back to the question posed by dragonscat, how do we determine what is funny, or at teh very least, what is worth laughing at?

If you force a smile, and you don't mean it, is that like lying, knowing what the intention of a smile is, is that like telling someone, that your happy to see them when you aren't?

Do you think that a lack of sympathy is the result of hate then? Is hate a learned response that has caused people to overlook their natural compassion?

Studies show that the drive to reproduce is stronger than any other natural instinct; more than the need for food, more than the need for shelter, and more then the need for self preservation. That being said, do you think that love is a learned emotional response to accompany procreation? Or even perhaps a natural condition affiliated with the necessary drive to reproduce?

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reproducing twilitmoon June 25 2004, 22:26:48 UTC
Speaking of reproducing, Trista is pregnant. Rene'e

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flipgod April 7 2004, 20:10:34 UTC
If crying is a natural response to a variable in our lives, how is it that some people are able to prevent themselves from doing it, and what are the adverse effects of this?

I never claimed that hatred was the opposite of sympathy, though I can see where it would appear that way, I apologize for that. It was merely an example, and I am curious to know if you think that it is a learned response or a natural instinct.

And I would love to hear the stories you have to tell about the conditioning effects of love.

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flipgod April 8 2004, 18:50:46 UTC
So you are saying that those who do not cry, have what we might call a nervous breakdown, an emotional explosion of sorts. Or they become Irish, whatever. So people of Irish heritage are more likely to have a nervous breakdown?

Good answers B, well thought out. I look forward to reading that post.

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sincityangel April 7 2004, 19:57:56 UTC
1. I think both. Depending on the situation ( ... )

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flipgod April 7 2004, 20:25:02 UTC
1. there is no both, if you were raised by wolves and suddenly discovered, would you have it instilled within to smile. You would have never seen a smile, so you wouldn't know what it was, would you smile out of nature, or would you not, becuase you had never seen one and not known how to ( ... )

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