okay, last one

Sep 21, 2008 14:45

Okay, I will drop this, but first, here are some stand-out comments from the Reclusive Leftist site (man, they are not kidding about the "reclusive" part):

How did it suddenly become shameful to have the background of a typical American woman, married with kids, college, a job, etc.?I wasn't aware the typical American woman had been to college. I ( Read more... )

stupidity, the damn internet, the states

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X man revspitz September 21 2008, 20:06:33 UTC
Any coward who supports abortion has the blood of babies on their hands.

SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.

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Re: X man fromaway September 21 2008, 20:09:46 UTC
Wow! I never heard of this before. I'm going to go out and get baptized and sin no more.

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ladykutenay September 21 2008, 20:22:15 UTC
Oh god I hate that "I'm pro-life because I had a baby" crap.

Now that I've been pregnant and given birth, I find the idea of forcing someone to do that who doesn't want to have a baby even more horrifying. Yeah, I was happy to do it, but that shit is seriously painful and intrusive.

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fromaway September 22 2008, 00:55:50 UTC
And the thing is, I've read comments from lots of mothers saying the same thing -- especially mothers who had difficult pregnancies. The notion that having a baby makes you want to force other women to have babies is seriously false.

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soalivesofree September 21 2008, 21:13:53 UTC
Can....not...type...fury...rising...in...throat.

It reminds me of the Republicans who try to insult Democrats by asking if they are sitting at home waiting for the welfare check to come. I have to wonder if they realize that, you know, they've actually met Democrats/feminists in real life and that, gasp!, they weren't the baby-killing, welfare-checking-dependent, woman-hating, fill-in-the-blank chimeras they'd built up in their minds.

Reality and these women are clearly not on speaking terms.

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fromaway September 21 2008, 21:33:31 UTC
The thing that fucking kills me is that I've been reading these commenters for years, some of them. I believe they are -- or were -- leftists and feminists, perhaps in the radical vein. I've disagreed with them, certainly, and not thought too highly of some of them, but this comes out of left field.

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soalivesofree September 21 2008, 21:44:17 UTC
I'm dying to know, where did you find these comments? I am shocked that they were/are/whatever leftists and feminists, because they are spewing the same kind of barely-educated repugnant nonsense I have to deal with at work every day.

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fromaway September 21 2008, 21:59:25 UTC
They commented all over the feministblogs.com blogs at various times in the past 3-4 years -- Alas, A Blog, Mousewords/Pandagon, Feministe, Feministing; especially Violet Socks, tinfoil hattie and soopermouse. I never saw particularly eye to eye with them, but this still shocks me.

I am trying to analyze it. The talk of Palin's "ordinariness" and "frontierness" and not being a member of the urban coastal "elite" Obama belongs to is racially inflected, but the other stuff just makes no sense.

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commieprincess September 21 2008, 22:08:01 UTC
if a woman didn’t want that person in her uterus, she shouldn’t have invited them in. Every unprotected sexual act invites pregnancy.

1. That "person"? Wow.
2. Yes, birth control never fails, and all women have equal access to it, and to information about how to use it correctly.

Honestly, that sounds like Quiverfull. And it's no less creepy coming from people who call themselves feminists.

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fromaway September 21 2008, 23:11:31 UTC
It's...you know, I'm trying to parse it. I really, really get angry at older women with children who are upset about the lack of support they get as mothers, the pervasive cultural climate that tells them they're not sexy or interesting or worth listening to any more, the people who suggest that children are luxury items and if you aren't rich you should never have any, and turn it into slut-shaming of younger women who don't have or want kids yet (or at all). And I think maybe that's what is going on here. The Republicans say nice things about mothers, Palin says nice things about mothers, they'll stick it to those little sluts who think they're so great, and nobody notices that the Republicans offer nothing, NOTHING concrete to help mothers and children.

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zooby September 22 2008, 00:24:17 UTC
It occurs to me that these people who are so anti-choice are also against public health care. If you're bringing all these little people into the world, then shouldn't you, as a nation, provide them with access to free health care? I mean, don't you owe them that? At LEAST?

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fromaway September 22 2008, 00:29:24 UTC
Now, now. These women are all leftist feminists and very much in favour of public healthcare. That's why they're voting for the candidates who most strongly oppose public health care. Don't see the logic? You're a misogynist!

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zooby September 22 2008, 00:38:47 UTC
Worse! I'm a pinko commie Canadian misogynist!

I have never seen so much idiocy in my entire life. Feminism should be the amazing thing that allows people to see past the bullshit being shovelled here to vote for the better candidate who happens to be a man.

You're right. If they vote in McCain, they deserve him. They think she'll listen to them cause she's a woman? Please. She's doing what Uncle Sam tells her to do. I'd think this was a repeat of Commander in Chief, except if McCain was on his deathbed and asked Palin to step down because he only picked her to win the soccer-mom vote, not because he thought she could lead the free world, she'd do it.

Oooooh. This makes me soooo mad! I'm voting Green.

Maybe actual feminists should decide to just call themselves misogynists from now on. Like these backwards fucks are just deciding they're feminists.

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fromaway September 22 2008, 01:02:14 UTC
They think she'll listen to them cause she's a woman?

I think at this point it's more like they'll listen to her because she's a woman. They are rapidly redefining "feminist" to mean "whatever Sarah Palin is."

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