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Nov 10, 2004 10:08

In an article about people feeling like they are no longer welcome in their own country, and thinking about a move, I pulled this ( Read more... )

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irishchild81 November 10 2004, 10:43:06 UTC
I can sympathize with this one concerning the "dumb and dumber part". However, a part of me can't help but feel like some people are being very childish about it all. Instead of speaking out and become active for change, they run away. Great, let's leave the land we love because we won't take the time to become active in what our government is doing. We have a damn voice, so can we stop running away from every problem that surfaces?????

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thebb73 November 10 2004, 11:00:33 UTC
I'm somewhere in between. I can't be involved with this government. The current administration hhas nothing to redeem itself. Not one thing, I would be ashamed to be a part of it. Other countries sound better right now. But this country is still set up to be the best, and there is too much here that is too important to just leave it to the people who would waste and destroy it from greed and neglect. So I won't be a part of what's going on, but I will do my best to fight it, and to protect this land from those who are doing so much destruction to it.

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irishchild81 November 10 2004, 11:09:56 UTC
There ya go! Fighting in this situation seems like a better solution to an expensive and emotionally draining move out of country. I mean, I want to move to Ireland...but it's not because I am running away from the crap here, ya know? lol

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arbiter_of_cool November 10 2004, 12:07:07 UTC
One of the popular saying during Vietnam and really much of the 70's was "America, love it or leave it". The ones who spouted it the loudest (and who are now in the White House) were the ones defining what 'America' was. To say you "loved America" meant that you were for the Vietnam War, for social constructs that limited the roles of women and minorities and for any other legislation that supported Brown and Root (What Halliburton wants to be).

Those protesting (for the most part) were saying "America, love it -- change it). And while they were able to make some changes, there were significant prices paid for them. I cannot say for sure that the same opportunity remains today to be a protester. When the government can declare "legitimate protest zones" and LITERALLY marginalize dissenters it is increasingly difficult to make your voice heard.

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Central America eh? smokin_man November 10 2004, 13:48:17 UTC
From one corrupt government to another. I'm sure that the local Guerillas will enjoy her families company, once they find out they are there. You may not hear much about what goes on down there, but believe me when I say, its a lot worse there than here.

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Re: Central America eh? kangitanka3 November 10 2004, 14:43:00 UTC
Unless she goes to Costa Rica. That place *ROCKS*!!!

Love,
~~Kt3-Has-Contemplated-Getting-Out~~

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kangitanka3 November 10 2004, 14:44:19 UTC
Don't blame her. I've contemplated doing the same myself

Canada's looking QUITE tempting these days

Love,
~~Kt3 the In This For the Long Haul~~

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irishchild81 November 10 2004, 14:56:44 UTC
We can't lose you, doll. We'll all fight for you. :)

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arbiter_of_cool November 10 2004, 15:59:52 UTC
My escape place is the worlds longest running democracy.
That's right, Iceland, Iceland. Land of sweet, sweet dreams and cold, cold women. It is perfect...

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that's funny.... kathyc514 November 10 2004, 17:21:55 UTC
Running to Central America to avoid corruption? That's too damned funny for words. I had family all over Central and South America (not all Cubans came here afer Castro) and they all ended up here eventually. They came here because of the corruption there. They initially didn't come here because they blamed Kennedy for Castro's takeover. They are still staunch Republicans and loath even the inklings of a socialistic state.

Even Costa Rica isn't immune from it. I have a close cousin whose sales territory is Costa Rica. In his own words "great for surfing, but I wouldn't want to live there."

After investigating adoption options in Central and South America, my legal counsel strongly advised against it unless I wanted to bribe a corrupt government to get the baby out. It is worse than Vietnam in corruption according to my adoption attorney.

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fakefriar November 11 2004, 15:07:25 UTC
First off, kudos to GD. I love a good debate.

As for this topic,

Since I am a huge supporter of free will and free choice, if the woman wants to go, let her go. She is naive if she things it will be better in Central or Southern America.

Irish is right, if you don't liek what is going on, fix it.

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