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Prompt/Fanfic Trope DiscussionmannadisanicolaFebruary 10 2012, 03:31:18 UTC
So this prompt made me think of something that I hadn't realized bothered me as much as it does until now and I need to talk about it or I'll just end up passive-aggressively filling the prompt in a way that would make the OP pissed off and that would be worse for everyone. I brought it here pre-emptively because it feels like a hot enough topic to cause wank and I'd prefer to keep it off the main meme and not ruin everyone's day with a locked prompt, just in case someone earnest does fill or want to fill it
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Re: Prompt/Fanfic Trope DiscussionmannadisanicolaFebruary 10 2012, 04:42:00 UTC
I think this question is complicated and can be taken in many different ways, with none of them being right or wrong.
Maybe if we had more information about when and how the bullying started, because we can be pretty sure it didn't just start in the pilot episode. There's an interview around that Ryan Murphy did where he said Puck was the mastermind/leader of the bullying but he never gave a reason. There's a million reasons why kids bully other kids.
I definitely agree with C. Jock A making homophobic remarks like that shouldn't be ignored but a lot of times it is, especially when it's revealed that Jock A is gay too. But that happens a lot on the show and in fiction. Santana and Sebastian insult Kurt all the time and no one ever says anything because they're gay too and 'it's not homophobic that way'.
Re: Prompt/Fanfic Trope DiscussionmannadisanicolaFebruary 10 2012, 11:31:53 UTC
*Phew*
Thank you so much for responding to that rationally, especially after I, well, didn't (apparently, victim-blaming and logical fallacies are some of my triggers, who knew? :P (I'm really sorry about the explosion; human beings are so weird with what sets us off and I'd been having a stressful week anyway)).
It does make me feel a lot better that Jock A's mindset is supposed to be contradictory and kind of revisionist in his own favor and realistic rather than sensible because, unfortunately, the two don't always overlap. The fact that his argument is supposed to be flawed (and what was I expecting from a McKinley jock, exactly, Socrates?) quells the desire to write Kurt just snapping and screaming back things like, "Maybe I assume people hate me for being gay because people don't give me the luxury of being seen as a whole person
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OT Concept question
anonymous
February 13 2012, 04:56:25 UTC
Does the concept of a TV series/movie/book series ever turn you off so much that you keep putting off reading or watching it even though there's a lot of people who love it?
I keep doing this to myself. Excessive violence turns me off so I avoided reading The Hunger Games(battle royale concept) and Spartacus and Game of Thrones for the graphic-ness. But when I finally did get around to them, obsession!
Re: OT Concept question
anonymous
March 27 2012, 18:04:59 UTC
Hell to the yes, you just described me to the T. The very first time this happened to me was with LOST, which I was really turned off by initially because I was a kid and it was supposed to be this plane-crash drama with a lot of people dying and I just really didn't like it. Then my sister started watching it every week and after a while I couldn't avoid it and sat down and actually watched it - BAM, hooked for 6 years and still one of my favourite shows ever
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Re: OT Concept question
anonymous
March 27 2012, 18:14:40 UTC
LOL long is good:)
I still remember the exact scene and time I started getting hooked on Glee. I had the TV on mute and Glee came on. I was mostly ignoring it but 'Beth' started and I unmuted it out of curiosity. Watched half the first season that night.
The Team Peeta/Team Gale stuff never bothered me since it's not too prominent in the books and I always thought of Gale was kind of a 'he's there and pretty much her only friend' option. And if I go into something knowing it's Young Adult I expect a love triangle of some sorts. If the author doesn't have one, the fans will make one.
OT concept question
anonymous
February 13 2012, 04:58:29 UTC
Has the concept of a TV or book series/movie ever turned you off so much that you avoid reading or watching it even though all your friends keep raving about it?
I keep doing this. Gore and excessive violence turns me off. I wouldn't read The Hunger Games because of the battle royale concept but when I did, all three books in three nights. Plowed through Spartacus in three nights and I'm on my seventh episode of the night for Game of Thrones. Now I wonder why I put of watching it for so long.
So, when did this meme become 90% Rachel bashing and Kurt/Hudmels worshiping, and is there any hope for that to change? I feel like I'm wasting my time even when I only check this thing once a month now, at best. That's a huge bummer, because I used to come here for Rachel prompts all the time.
If you feel a prompt is bashing and not simply a negative interpretation about a character - which is allowed due to the genre of the comm, comment at the PSCQ post, or here and let us know. We'll evaluate it and decide.
As the anon said above, feel free to make prompts of your own also.
(Not OP) I think it's one thing to request non-Kurt/Hudmels prompts but quite another for people to fill them. I mean, I've posted a few prompts of my own that have been focused on characters like Quinn or Tina,(pretty much anyone not Kurt/a Hudmel) yet none have seen a fill.
So to a person prompting/reading it can seem like other characters are being ignored in favour of a select few, which can be a little off putting for those who don't JUST want to read about those select few all the time.
(let me make it clear, since I'm not the best with words - I have nothing against Kurt/Hudmels and I'm not trying to bash, but maybe we could spread the love to other characters?)
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Maybe if we had more information about when and how the bullying started, because we can be pretty sure it didn't just start in the pilot episode. There's an interview around that Ryan Murphy did where he said Puck was the mastermind/leader of the bullying but he never gave a reason. There's a million reasons why kids bully other kids.
I definitely agree with C. Jock A making homophobic remarks like that shouldn't be ignored but a lot of times it is, especially when it's revealed that Jock A is gay too. But that happens a lot on the show and in fiction. Santana and Sebastian insult Kurt all the time and no one ever says anything because they're gay too and 'it's not homophobic that way'.
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Thank you so much for responding to that rationally, especially after I, well, didn't (apparently, victim-blaming and logical fallacies are some of my triggers, who knew? :P (I'm really sorry about the explosion; human beings are so weird with what sets us off and I'd been having a stressful week anyway)).
It does make me feel a lot better that Jock A's mindset is supposed to be contradictory and kind of revisionist in his own favor and realistic rather than sensible because, unfortunately, the two don't always overlap. The fact that his argument is supposed to be flawed (and what was I expecting from a McKinley jock, exactly, Socrates?) quells the desire to write Kurt just snapping and screaming back things like, "Maybe I assume people hate me for being gay because people don't give me the luxury of being seen as a whole person ( ... )
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I keep doing this to myself. Excessive violence turns me off so I avoided reading The Hunger Games(battle royale concept) and Spartacus and Game of Thrones for the graphic-ness. But when I finally did get around to them, obsession!
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I still remember the exact scene and time I started getting hooked on Glee. I had the TV on mute and Glee came on. I was mostly ignoring it but 'Beth' started and I unmuted it out of curiosity. Watched half the first season that night.
The Team Peeta/Team Gale stuff never bothered me since it's not too prominent in the books and I always thought of Gale was kind of a 'he's there and pretty much her only friend' option. And if I go into something knowing it's Young Adult I expect a love triangle of some sorts. If the author doesn't have one, the fans will make one.
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I keep doing this. Gore and excessive violence turns me off. I wouldn't read The Hunger Games because of the battle royale concept but when I did, all three books in three nights. Plowed through Spartacus in three nights and I'm on my seventh episode of the night for Game of Thrones. Now I wonder why I put of watching it for so long.
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If I was thinner--Tina's. More specifically her first and second season clothes, when she was still goth.
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Outside of Glee, Nikita's from Nikita. I might not be able to move or bend over but I'd look great lol.
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As the anon said above, feel free to make prompts of your own also.
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So to a person prompting/reading it can seem like other characters are being ignored in favour of a select few, which can be a little off putting for those who don't JUST want to read about those select few all the time.
(let me make it clear, since I'm not the best with words - I have nothing against Kurt/Hudmels and I'm not trying to bash, but maybe we could spread the love to other characters?)
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