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i think they're fine, cuz, like grant said, they dont really hurt the dog. and they're effective. it's no different than, say, squirting them with a squirt gun or hitting them lightly to say "NO!".
What we did is whenever we took our dog outside the fence, we took her collar off. This wasn't to prevent her from getting shocked, actually (all you have to do is carry her over the fence...if she's more than 2 feet off of the ground she's outside of the fence's radius.
She then began to associate the collar with her inability to leave the property. Whenever she wasn't wearing it, she knew that it was okay to follow us past the fence boundary. So taking her outside of the fence never really undermined her training, so long as we made a big deal of taking her collar off whenever we were about to take her somewhere.
They know that the beep comes from the collar and they never cross the border on their own. To take them on a walk, we pick them up at the edge of the yard an carry them over, then put them down.
I don't see what's immoral about it. It's better than the dog running away so that he ends up getting hit by a car or something. And letting a dog run around outside is actually important to its health. Besides, Stich is a jack russell isn't he? Those dogs are supposed to be really smart. I think he'll learn via classical conditioning pretty quickly.
Immorality vs. WALKING YOUR DOG
anonymous
June 5 2007, 03:24:00 UTC
I think the radio fence is only immoral if YOU DON'T WALK THE DOG EVERY DAY. He can only explore and exercise in the confines of a house, but the radio fence teases him with the temptation of exploring outside. For those who don't know, Glen's dog spends a few days a week in a cage.
Re: Immorality vs. WALKING YOUR DOGglenbolakeJune 5 2007, 04:08:41 UTC
Good God, Sid. I should have known you'd comment on that. Yeah, I know you think we don't walk them enough.
And for the record, that's not a cage, it's a kennel. The difference is huge. Every dog I've owned has loved their little house that they can call their own. Donut doesn't use her kennel anymore, but she used to go in there willingly in the middle of the day to take a nap. If we couldn't find her she was often in there.
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saw val and syd(sid? sp?) last night. it was fun.
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She then began to associate the collar with her inability to leave the property. Whenever she wasn't wearing it, she knew that it was okay to follow us past the fence boundary. So taking her outside of the fence never really undermined her training, so long as we made a big deal of taking her collar off whenever we were about to take her somewhere.
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And for the record, that's not a cage, it's a kennel. The difference is huge. Every dog I've owned has loved their little house that they can call their own. Donut doesn't use her kennel anymore, but she used to go in there willingly in the middle of the day to take a nap. If we couldn't find her she was often in there.
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