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jude_judith82 September 4 2009, 13:01:39 UTC
Don't read spoilers they will drive you mad.

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goodvibe September 4 2009, 13:07:20 UTC
Well said. A piece of advice I will put into effect immediately.

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jeannev September 4 2009, 13:32:08 UTC
And again, welcome to where I was last week. I think recent spoilers, and this OD, all point in a very bad direction.

If they make the HUGE mistake of making everything Clark does be about Lois, then I predict its going to have every bit the backlash that Clana did. Not to mention that they aren't easing into this at all. Its their fault that they dragged their asses on this last year, revisited Clana, and had Clark's feelings be ambigious. You just can't turn around and announce he's madly in love with Lois in the first 2-3 eps. Not without it coming off completely lame.

Clark's storyline being so tightly wrapped up in a ship is just not a good place for him to be. And it isn't where Lois should be either.

And the lame Jor-El/training shit is the lamest excuse to stall.

Souders/Peterson are so lame.

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goodvibe September 4 2009, 13:52:50 UTC
It's like I said - SV is just perenially incapable of getting the balance right.

I'm going to save myself further disappointments now and try and base my reactions to the eps when they air, solely on their quality, and not my feelings wrt the spoilers. Because otherwise the alternative is nothing but aggravating. And I'd rather not be right now.

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starry_dawn September 4 2009, 13:50:09 UTC
Regarding the Chlark thing ... I'm actually holding out hope that the writers MEAN for us to see Clark in the right and Chloe in the wrong. That they are deliberately writing in Chloe being stupid (when did bringing back dead people ever go well, and hello, all your fault in the first place, missy ... but I can understand her behaviour because no one is really in their right minds immediately after losing a loved one), and that Clark's decision is meant to convey maturity and good sense.

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I know. Stupid me, right?

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goodvibe September 4 2009, 13:59:17 UTC
Oh, don't get me wrong. As stupid as Chloe wanting to turn back time is - I can actually see where she's coming from. It is a place of grief, and initial grief can be vented irrationally sometimes. My beef is the way it is implied in the OD that Clark refusing is what causes a wedge in the friendship. Because, this just sort of glosses over all of Chloe' shit from last season. But I should've expected this, given Jimmy' speech of never-ending praise to her before he died.

I should like to think though that eventually Chloe will realize her own part in all of this. I'd really like her to, and it would go such a long way in me getting OK with her character again. I just think it's wishful thinking unfortunately.

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starry_dawn September 4 2009, 15:03:04 UTC
See, I never thought Clark would ever blame her for bringing on all the shit that went down in "Doomsday". For the show to imply it is one thing, yes (which doesn't seem likely), but I never thought Clark would ever hold that against her, especially now that Jimmy's gone. I can imagine that it's Chloe who gets angry/frustrated with him not willing to help with the situation at hand, which is what drives the wedge. Plus, the ODs are almost always slightly misleading, so I wouldn't worry TOO much about it beforehand.

But yeah, I'm holding out hope for them having Chloe realize her part in this whole mess. I love Chloe, but lately I've been feeling like they're piling on the negative stuff and just not having her reap the consequences and that just feels too Lana-like for me. Oh, well.

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carolandtom September 4 2009, 13:53:12 UTC
That description makes me remember why I gave up hope on SV a long time ago. I've come to the point where a spoiler I like or I look forward to is the exception and a big surprise. This show lost its way years ago and now there's no overall meaning or sense to anything the creative team do. They just look for stories that may guarantee them more episodes to film and more money to make, and they don't really care if they fit into the original purpose of the show, its main storyline or one with the other, neither do they care if they serve the characters. Ironically, the only thing they keep constant is that everything is Clark's fault.

I gave up on enjoying this show and now I just hope it doesn't annoy me or anger me much. Sadly it usually fails at that too.

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goodvibe September 4 2009, 14:03:47 UTC
It is really sad to have it come to this. Atleast we still have TW, eh? :-)

Truth be told though, all said and done, I do still derive enjoyment from this show, even now. But it is in aggravating fits and starts - all too brief. Because when a show forgets its centre - in this case, Clark, that is bound to happen.

Still, I'm off the spoilers, that's for sure. At least I can hope to maybe remain a little more stress-free this way.

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goodvibe September 4 2009, 16:07:19 UTC
This is why when it comes to this show, I wish they'd show restraint when it comes to 'ships. They just can't do balance. I think it's about time Clark/Lois got amped up a notch or two, but the writers need to remember that ultimately as two individual characters they deserve being done justice to as well. And then their development as relating to each other can take place just as well.

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