Mrs.Ryan is wrong.

[habito_n_somnii]

I'm trying to prove a point to someone.

Everyone who has read Lord of the Flies, preferably in an english class, please respond to this. And I know that's most of you.

What do the characters Simon and Piggy represent? Two seperate things.

Thanks.

Comments

[providence_crow]

Piggy was order and civilization, and i don't remember which kid Simon was. was he the bad one? and did you get the icon i sent you?

[habito_n_somnii]

yes i did ^_^, and the main question is

Is Simon or Piggy the superego?

(psst Jack is the evil one. Simon is the one who talks to the LOTF incarnate.)

[providence_crow]

i dunno, what's a superego again? did you like the icon?

[habito_n_somnii]

from my psych book: Superego According to Freud, the moral component of personality that incorporates social standards about what represents right and wrong.

I can't decide whether it's fantastic or cruel. XD;

[nerdy_enigma]

personally i think piggy is the superego, but some people say simon. i think simon is more of a religious allegory.

[providence_crow]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA UNICORN GLUE!!!!

[superjesus1128]

Simon was the epelectic. He talks to the pig's head (The Lord of the Flies...*wink*) and foreshadows the downfall of the society of the boys on the island.

Piggy is reason and order. He symbolizes civilized lifstyle.

I was going to say something else, but "civilized civilization" sounded a bit redundant.

[habito_n_somnii]

Who is superego?.

[nachtgeist]

Simon = jesus.
Piggy = civilization.

This is how it is.

Also: if anyone tells you that it is NOT religious in nature, that Simon is NOT a religious type figure, inform them that "Lord of the Flies" is a translation of Baalzevuv, a name for satan which translates to... LORD OF THE MOTHERFUCKING FLIES.

if you want to be freud about it...

Simon = superego
Piggy = Ego
Jack = Id

But that's stupid.

Because Simon = jesus
Piggy = civilization
Jack = entropy.

[habito_n_somnii]

Freudian was what I was looking for; yay.

I know about the Beezlebub bit, I believe there's an essay or somesort in the back of the book on it? That or we read something about it in 7th grade.