Mail, sorted & organised.

[halimede]

I switched to the Opera Mail client, and I think I'm in love. At least, when you alternately want to throttle and kiss the object of your affection, that's love, right

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[mickeym]

*sniffs* I had about that many, between all my folders.

GONE. *sniffs again*

I'm using Mozilla's Thunderbird, and I think it's pretty peachy :)

[halimede]

The pain of mail crashes, I know it well.

I probably have about twice that again in unimported folders going way back in time that I never bothered putting back after re-installs and crashes. I think I might do that soon, if only to sort them properly so that when I archive stuff and burn to disk, it's actually in an order where I can *find* stuff again. :)

What do you like about Thunderbird?

[mickeym]

Well, so far, Thunderbird is a lot like OE, so what I like about it mainly is that it's reasonably familiar. There's nothing too outrageously different--which is important for people like me, who have trouble with change *g*

[raggedrose]

You might want to have a look at this:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9056

Don't know if it's true or not, but it's enough to keep me from going back to Opera. It was OK, but the ads were annoying as all hell.

Besides, Firefox suits me just fine. Plus, it's free.

[halimede]

It's absolutely *not* true: Opera has the *option* of letting them personalize the ads, and the *option* of not doing so. You pick one when you install. I pick 'don't personalize', if you do it's still an anonymous thing. I don't think it counts as spyware if it asks you for permission first.

The overly dramatic author of that piece should have *read* which ticky box he ticked on install. And Opera has too many features that Firefox that I wouldn't want to give up. The ad-banner is so unobtrusive, it never bothered me.

[halimede]

Oh, and if you picked the wrong one on install, you can go to preferences and change the setting at any point.

[raggedrose]

Cool--you pays your money, you takes your choices...

Just info, after all. But I see you feel very strongly about this. So do I, Opera is not a browser I'll ever use again.

Hey, I'm curious--how did we meet? Because I don't remember. And we don't seem to have a thing in common.

[manna]

Is that with POP3 or SMTP? I tried to set up Opera Mail when we switched to SMTP and it choked horribly -- I couldn't get it to work at all.

[halimede]

When did you set it up? M2 is new with Opera 6, I think, written from scratch.

Also, as far as I know POP3 is always incoming mail (if you have it on an external server), and SMTP is outgoing mail (again, if that's an external server). The only way to receive mail with SMTP is if *you* have a POP3server running, and your ISP's server sends stuff there with SMTP. But since M2 is a mail *client*, not a mail *server* you can't receive mail with SMTP. You'd need a server program (and they don't usually come with a client interface, though some do).

Another option is IMAP, which is a remote folder thing. I've got POP3 for incoming, SMTP for sending. M2 has IMAP support, but I haven't tried it out (yet). I might, because I just found out about a free IMAP mail service, which is pretty nifty-sounding.

[manna]

Yes, we're running a mail server on the server here, which gets the mail from Demon and stores it locally.

However, I had a brain wibble -- what I meant was indeed IMAP, not SMTP. (It's the problem of watching TV *and* reading LJ *and* writing porn :-)

[manna]

p.s. It was the M2 mail tool I tried.