I wonder if Castiel's good intentions mirror Ruby's
I could see him manipulating Dean, though hating himself while doing it, if he thought it was God's will. He's done that before, though came to his sense when Anna challenged Castiel's orders.
I find it interesting, too, that Ruby evoked immediate suspicion, both from the boys themselves, particularly Dean, and also from the fanbase. I wonder what game they might be playing with a character that was generally well received and more or less considered to be a good guy, if not immediately trustworthy.Which makes me wonder if they're playing us, the audience, because of this tendency. We're certainly ripe for it. Castiel certainly was well received, which gives the writers more to work with in terms of messing with our perceptions. It's just a question of how far they're willing to risk
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Ooh, I like this. I've had some suspicions about Castiel, and I am not sure the writers would dare go there, but it's nice to see it laid out like this. A lot of comparisons here I hadn't thought of. I can't believe Dean would trust Castiel so implicitly after he practically lied to him all last year. It shouldn't even count that Castiel tried to step in and help at the last minute, because Ruby saved Sam and Dean's asses all the time in S3, and that was part of the starting point of how Sam started to wearily trust her. Angels have proved to be shady. Since family plays such a strong role on SPN, I wonder if it should be discounted that ultimately, Lucifer and the rest are Castiel's brothers. They're his family, and that's a connection right there that might be hard for him to sever completely. I think I'd die if the show went there with Castiel, it'd be so crazy cool.
Since family plays such a strong role on SPN, I wonder if it should be discounted that ultimately, Lucifer and the rest are Castiel's brothers. They're his family, and that's a connection right there that might be hard for him to sever completely.
Yep, good point.
I think I'd die if the show went there with Castiel, it'd be so crazy cool.
Wouldn't it, though? :D
I've had some suspicions about Castiel
Anything in particular, or is it Dean's tendency to trust Castiel so implicitly after a relatively short and bumpy acquaintance that raises your hackles?
Actually, it started last season for me, when I caught a repeat of Yellow Fever, and caught onto some interesting visual callbacks between that and No Rest for the Wicked. The whole fear thing, and how I thought the angels were playing on Dean's fears for Sam from then, and how it was Castiel that had been the one to start planting the seeds of Dean's doubts that season. After that there was a lot of little things where I thought Castiel might have possibly been saying thing Dean needed to hear, like asking him if he ever disobeyed an order from his father like he was trying to put himself on an even playing field with Dean. But now after last season's finale and the Ruby thing, and finding out the angels were rooting for the apocalypse the whole time, I just can't bring myself to trust him. I don't think he's really done anything that warrants blind trust. I think it's dumb to even give him any points for trying to help out in the end, because just like with Ruby, just because he stepped up at the end doesn't really mean he's on Dean
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YESYESYES - I was just thinking about Castiel last night - all new and badass and with the mysterious resurrecting, and thinking he's got some plan of his own going on, or has he switched sides, or or or.... *EEEEEEEEK I'M SCARED*
btw: Much love to your icon. Jensen plays Jared's straight man so often it's fun to see them reverse roles like that. Dean's exaggerated emotionality wouldn't be so nearly funny if it weren't played against Sam's weary, fond "here we go again" resignation.
I like this analysis very much. Thank you for sharing. I very much like your look at mirrors, flowers and the spell work. To me those were quite obvious instances which made me perk up. And I very much agree, Dean and Sam when separated end up in bad places. Yes, it is a good thing that Sam finds himself again and Dean gets a rest but aren't they more vulnerable right now? To separate in the face of the Apocalypse isn't that foolish
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On a last thought - what we have seen so far of Dean & Castiel reminds me somewhat of Bonnie & Claude. And I seem to remember that one ended in bloodshed.
*blink* Wow. You just triggered an old, very buried memory of mine. When I was in grade school we visited a museum at, what I remember as the Missouri Highway Patrol Headquarters. For some reason, they had the car that Bonnie and Clyde were killed in on display. I remember the guide pointing out the bullet holes riddling the metal. I was young enough that, though it made a strong impression on me, I didn't quite understand why something like that would be memorialized and puzzled over it for a long time afterward.
Uh. Not that that has anything to do with SPN. :D
Besides, a crusade for G-d is a laudable thing. Just like the crusades for the Holy Grail had been. (too bad they caused many deaths, left behind conquered kingdoms and started the problems in the Middle East which resonate until today.)
What was it that Dean said in Faith? May God save us from half the
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Oh wow, now that is kind of makaber, I guess? And yes, I doubt anyone could forget seeing such a car.
May God save us from half the people who think they are doing God's work? Indeed. It's very true actually. So many good intentions became twisted over time in humanity's past.
Thank you, I am really curious what 'his' game truly is. So far I am feeling suspicious. (but then, I always am. lol)
Awesome meta. I really like the visual callbacks you cite in support of this theory. And I LOVE the idea of Castiel having his own agenda. I'm fond of him, but I'd be disappointed if he turned out to be merely a friendly (sometimes badass) helper of Dean.
Another thing to consider is that both Ruby and Castiel seemed to "die" in a season finale, only to return and work with one of the brothers while the other was gone.
The more I watch, the more impressed I am with the coherency of the story--both plotwise and visually. Again, if all this symmetry turns out to be coincidence, I'll be very surprised.
Another thing to consider is that both Ruby and Castiel seemed to "die" in a season finale, only to return and work with one of the brothers while the other was gone.
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I could see him manipulating Dean, though hating himself while doing it, if he thought it was God's will. He's done that before, though came to his sense when Anna challenged Castiel's orders.
I find it interesting, too, that Ruby evoked immediate suspicion, both from the boys themselves, particularly Dean, and also from the fanbase. I wonder what game they might be playing with a character that was generally well received and more or less considered to be a good guy, if not immediately trustworthy.Which makes me wonder if they're playing us, the audience, because of this tendency. We're certainly ripe for it. Castiel certainly was well received, which gives the writers more to work with in terms of messing with our perceptions. It's just a question of how far they're willing to risk ( ... )
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Yep, good point.
I think I'd die if the show went there with Castiel, it'd be so crazy cool.
Wouldn't it, though? :D
I've had some suspicions about Castiel
Anything in particular, or is it Dean's tendency to trust Castiel so implicitly after a relatively short and bumpy acquaintance that raises your hackles?
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But scared in a good way. XD
btw: Much love to your icon. Jensen plays Jared's straight man so often it's fun to see them reverse roles like that. Dean's exaggerated emotionality wouldn't be so nearly funny if it weren't played against Sam's weary, fond "here we go again" resignation.
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*blink* Wow. You just triggered an old, very buried memory of mine. When I was in grade school we visited a museum at, what I remember as the Missouri Highway Patrol Headquarters. For some reason, they had the car that Bonnie and Clyde were killed in on display. I remember the guide pointing out the bullet holes riddling the metal. I was young enough that, though it made a strong impression on me, I didn't quite understand why something like that would be memorialized and puzzled over it for a long time afterward.
Uh. Not that that has anything to do with SPN. :D
Besides, a crusade for G-d is a laudable thing. Just like the crusades for the Holy Grail had been. (too bad they caused many deaths, left behind conquered kingdoms and started the problems in the Middle East which resonate until today.)
What was it that Dean said in Faith? May God save us from half the ( ... )
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May God save us from half the people who think they are doing God's work?
Indeed. It's very true actually. So many good intentions became twisted over time in humanity's past.
Thank you, I am really curious what 'his' game truly is. So far I am feeling suspicious. (but then, I always am. lol)
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Another thing to consider is that both Ruby and Castiel seemed to "die" in a season finale, only to return and work with one of the brothers while the other was gone.
The more I watch, the more impressed I am with the coherency of the story--both plotwise and visually. Again, if all this symmetry turns out to be coincidence, I'll be very surprised.
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Innnnteresting. *g*
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