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varkelton September 27 2009, 06:13:37 UTC
I really hope you're right, because I think this would make Castiel a much more interesting character - but then I kind of like morally ambiguous characters.

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hearseeno September 27 2009, 16:51:33 UTC
Yep. So do I. And it would certainly add a nice tension to the plot, wouldn't it.

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blacklid September 27 2009, 06:33:37 UTC
Thanks for the mention, hon! ;)

As for the Castiel arc... I thought it was interesting that in the "O Death" promo, they showed the Siren - the only MOTW anywhere in that vid - and then cut to Dean with Cas in the background.

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hearseeno September 27 2009, 16:52:43 UTC
You're welcome. :)

I thought it was interesting that in the "O Death" promo, they showed the Siren - the only MOTW anywhere in that vid - and then cut to Dean with Cas in the background.

*gasp*

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. *rubs hands gleefully*

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annspal September 27 2009, 19:38:57 UTC
AND... Why reuse the name 'Nick' by giving it to both the siren and Lucifer's temporary shelter?

Which then recalls all the other names that have been repeated or tweaking the littlest bit, including 'Cas'!

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blacklid September 27 2009, 22:38:43 UTC
Yep, you're on the right track.
*working on the 5.02 review*

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pinkphoenix1985 September 27 2009, 07:40:45 UTC
all the parallels are so awesome!

I honestly don't trust Castiel as far as I can throw him! :/

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hearseeno September 27 2009, 16:53:54 UTC
And I bet Misha is having all kinds of fun portraying Castiel because of it.

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pinkphoenix1985 September 27 2009, 18:28:43 UTC
oh I know!! he must be having a blast :D

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moodswingers September 27 2009, 11:27:06 UTC
Oh, wow, so intriguing. I wonder if they would go there. It would really be a cool twist.

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hearseeno September 27 2009, 16:55:12 UTC
It would really be a cool twist.

Wouldn't it? I can hear the collective dismayed gasp arising from the fandom already. *sigh* We can hope.

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shopstewardess September 27 2009, 11:40:44 UTC
This is fascinating meta. It doesn't occur to me that there is so much deliberation behind the sets and shots, until someone like you points it out. Thank you.

The side by side pictures of Dean with Castiel on his shoulder and Sam with Ruby on his shoulder are particularly striking. Traditionally, when someone spills salt they throw it over their left shoulder, because that's where the devil sits. Ruby is quite clearly on Sam's left shoulder. But the Dean/Castiel image is in the mirror, so there is not quite the correspondence that the pictures immediately suggest: Castiel is in reality on Dean's right shoulder.

I'm going to hold on to this as saying that Castiel is one of the good guys.

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hearseeno September 27 2009, 17:04:59 UTC
Ruby is quite clearly on Sam's left shoulder. But the Dean/Castiel image is in the mirror, so there is not quite the correspondence that the pictures immediately suggest: Castiel is in reality on Dean's right shoulder.

Huh! Interesting. I wonder if they did that blocking on purpose.

I'm going to hold on to this as saying that Castiel is one of the good guys.

Welllll, okay, but remember, the image in the mirror is the underlying truth of the matter.

But, still, I know what you mean. I like Castiel. I think he has a much greater capacity for empathy and compassion than Ruby ever had. Witness how torn he was over betraying Anna. Even if it does turn out that he's working a hidden agenda here, I think he has great potential to be a "good guy."

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blacklid September 27 2009, 23:08:23 UTC
But they are ALL "good" guys... right? ;)

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