Comments | hollowandroid: limp spleen

hollowandroid

limp spleen

Jul 23, 2009 12:18

if 70% of Americans want a thing, and the government spends all damn day trying to prevent that thing from happening, they're not doing their job. currently this is about public health care. now, i understand quite well that really believing that the government will act in my best interest is stupid, but at least they usually put up a fairly good ( Read more... )

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mouser882 July 23 2009, 17:05:46 UTC

howard county is doing a pretty nice health care thing. http://www.healthyhowardplan.org/
It's not free, and claims to not be "insurance", but fuck it, I get to go to the doctor and my prescriptions are cheap. Of course you have to live in the county, but it's still a step in the right direction.

I think most people (of the general public, not lawmakers or representatives) who are against govt healthcare reform are ignorant of what it could mean - they just hear "long lines for everyone" and "good for poor people" and argue against it without any further thought.

hollowandroid July 23 2009, 19:25:53 UTC

they also just hate the government and think that the government will tell us what kind of care we are able to receive. what they don't understand is that all of the private health insurance companies model their plans after Medicare. if Medicare is the benchmark, then the government already does decide what kind of care we get. given this fact, i'd prefer the government take total control of health care. at least it's not a private for-profit business making these decisions.

that Howard County thing looks like a good service. luckily i have health insurance now (i actually have really good insurance being an employee of the state), but i do pay several hundred dollars a month in premiums in order to get that care.

mouser882 July 24 2009, 05:21:56 UTC

yeah, being part time blows and insurance, though offered through the library (also state!), would have been about $300/month, which is not something I can afford. It would've been cheaper straight from blue cross. $85 is much better!

majorenglish July 24 2009, 16:58:51 UTC

As far as I can tell, most of the poll data about public health care indicates not that people specifically 'want' a public health care option, but the way it's worded is that they feel it will 'not be more expensive' or that the 'quality of care will not be lowered' if there is a public option. It is probably worded this obtusely on purpose ( ... )

mouser882 July 24 2009, 17:23:58 UTC

It would be better because Ryan, my little sister, Lauren, I, and I'm sure plenty of other people we know wouldn't have to spend long periods of time without being able to go to the doctor when we're sick or without medications or other healthcare that we need. At least when you're getting on a waiting list there's hope that the care necessary will come through. And without having to go deeply into debt for it. In fact, it's only because of a county government assistance public healthcare program that I have something near health insurance right now ( ... )

hollowandroid July 24 2009, 17:56:49 UTC

well, thanks for calling me "fucking stupid."

i also don't recall ever saying that in Canada everything is coated in sugar. of course they have their problems. you're putting words in my mouth.

and i think 47 million uninsured Americans is a shame. if you don't think that, so be it.

majorenglish July 24 2009, 21:35:19 UTC

To start off, i didn't call you 'fucking stupid'. I called a certain action 'fucking stupid'. If you want to implicitly admit that you were engaging in this action, then you get what comes with it.

Second "47 million uninsured Americans" is a number of debate.
Subtract from that number the people who choose for whatever reason to remain uninsured.
Subtract from that number the number of people who live in this country illegally.
Subtract from that number people who are only uninsured for a short term of several months.

Your end result will be a number far short of 47 million.

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scatter0brained July 30 2009, 19:15:53 UTC

whats your painful problem?

hollowandroid July 31 2009, 14:56:08 UTC

i have insurance now and am fine, but a year and half ago, when i was doing live sound at the 8x10, i didn't have any insurance, and i got a really painful cyst on my tailbone. usually men get this type of cyst, but some women who have had it described it as more painful than childbirth. at the time i was the only sound engineer and it was the week between Christmas and New Years so we had a lot of big shows going on with a lot of people and big name bands, so i couldn't skip work. the show must go on and all that. also, without insurance, i thought i'd have to go to the emergency room in order to receive some sort of care.

i barely could walk, i couldn't sit. about the only thing i could do was stand still. even then, depending on how i stood, it would hurt like hell.

scatter0brained July 31 2009, 15:23:11 UTC

oh right i remember you telling me about it now. im glad youre better now

sacgoat August 1 2009, 06:30:48 UTC

Dogg I lived with you when you worked at the 8x10 and this is my first time hearing about it! How long did this painful cyst thing go on? I had no goddamned idea! You lived with me for a year and paid rent for the entire duration a grand total of 2 months, largely because my dad is a fuckup possibly an order of magnitude greater than I am (and goddamnit I'm a pretty epic fuckup). You pretty much got free rent for a year thanks to me! I mean I don't want to be a jerk or anything but I lived with you for a year and yet the time I got us magic mushrooms led to greater interaction than the entire rest of the house-mateness combined. What the hell?

In other words: pilonidal cysts suck and hurt a lot, why aren't we doggs.

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