This is NOT friends only. I ask for HELP again. VW Jetta...

Jan 21, 2008 17:21

So, hi. I had posted about our VW Jetta, and how it's not running ( Read more... )

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spacecowgirl January 22 2008, 04:22:35 UTC
It is very possible that something that AAMCO did in the diagnostic test fucked things up. I don't typically trust car mechanic chains...AAMCO, Tire Kingdom, Just Brakes, Meineke, etc., they're usually all total shysters. $650 to replace an alternator and a battery? Uh...no. The parts themselves aren't that expensive, and the labour to replace a simple alternator and battery DEFINITELY does not cost that much.

Personally, I'd take it to an authorized VW mechanic. Doesn't matter if it's at a dealership or a private mechanic. S/he just has to know what s/he is doing.

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You're not from around here, are you. montecristo January 22 2008, 06:54:43 UTC
I could see parts and labor for alternator and battery replacement going $650 easily out here. California is full of people with more money than sense and very little mechanical aptitude. Hell, I know lots of guys who will call a mechanic to change a flat tire. Sad, really.

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Re: You're not from around here, are you. spacecowgirl January 22 2008, 09:36:55 UTC
:-/ Wow. That is sad. Even I know how to change my own tire and I'm a girly girl. But I did live in California for a time, it was only six months though. I didn't have a car there when I did, and it was almost ten years ago, so...

But, yeah, it's $300 here, tops. I live in Florida, and yes, near the tourists, but just like everyone who really lives and works in a touristy area, mechanics have a nose for who is and isn't a tourist. They know that you'll just go down the road if they try to take you for a ride - and that you'll remember that they did.

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Re: You're not from around here, are you. montecristo January 22 2008, 18:34:10 UTC
If the AAMCO down the street is full of Jags and BMWs getting serviced you know that you are not going pay a reasonable price to get your VW worked on. I try to give my daughters a working knowledge of how the car works and how to manage its maintenance and repair. The world is full of unscrupulous people who will gouge a customer if they think she can be bamboozled about what is wrong with her car or what is necessary to fix it. In many places there is a kind of sexist discrimination where some bad apple mechanics will assume that women are less knowledgeable about automobile issues. In California though, we don't have as much of that kind of sexism: they assume ignorance on the part of either sex and are very frequently not wrong.

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Auto Ideas montecristo January 22 2008, 06:49:24 UTC
  1. It could be the drive pinion on the starter.
  2. Unlikely, but it could be that the teeth on the engine flywheel ring gear are damaged and not engaging the pinion.
  3. It could be the starter solenoid itself.
  4. It could be the ignition relay.

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Re: Auto Ideas montecristo January 22 2008, 18:35:50 UTC
It would be a big help to know exactly what happens when you turn the key. What sounds does it make, for example.

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Re: Auto Ideas ingenuemuse January 22 2008, 18:38:32 UTC
it sounds like...

*nothing*

The dome lights stay on for some reason, so my husband does something to peserve the battery, but if it's all set to go.. you hear nothingwhen you turn the car, and the car will only run once it's been push started.

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Re: Auto Ideas ingenuemuse January 22 2008, 18:41:00 UTC
oh yeah I read when can edit comments now. Too bad I'm so outa touch.

Anyway when you turn the key you hear the little "reminder dings" (fasten seat belt, stay in school, don't do drugs)... but the car doesn't turn over with a push start.

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mememegetgetget January 22 2008, 23:51:57 UTC
If the car runs fine when push started, the alternator works... or there is enough battery power for the car to run on without the alternator, and since they've been replaced I'd look elsewhere for now.

IT sounds to me like possibly the Neutral/Park cutoff switch thingymibob is cuting off the starting circuit. or the Solenoid is faulty or the wiring is ALL F'D up....

the easiest way to rule some of this out is to

Try Bypassing Everything!

Put the Key in the Start Position, (Transmission in Neutral or PArk) and Direct Wire a KNOWN fully charged battery to the Starter see if the starter turns....

The situation you describe right now is that the Starter motor is NOT receiving power because of faulty wiring, or something else... otherwise it would at least TRY to turn over the engine.

In my VW bug I bypassed everything and direct wired my starter to a push button switch... I still had to use the key to place the car in the "run" position..... but I was good to go.

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