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[Voice] Complex

Oct 20, 2011 15:59

[Trevor's broadcast immediately begins--no static or anything fancy like that. Since what doesn't kill you makes you stranger, Trevor figures it's all the better to share the strangeness with them. His voice is solemn, measured ( Read more... )

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[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 20 2011, 22:47:11 UTC

Science doesn't change or mutate, it's man's understanding that changes and evolves with Science's help. It is the perfect example and perfect rules that we follow, the God and Bible of the thinking man, not a tool for his use. It's the hunger for knowledge and understanding, for innovation, not the results its self. They carry the adjective 'scientific' but can not be called science its self. Science is reality, reality defined, explained, neither subjective or an illusion.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 20 2011, 22:54:24 UTC

But science, the word and genus, comes from man. Man evolves, therefore does all his words and ideas must evolve as well. Light, in the absence of eyes, illuminates nothing. Our experience is directly tied to this world. When we ignore that the world is tied to our experience, the results return tainted.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 20 2011, 23:00:35 UTC

Man names many things, it doesn't mean that he created them. He breathes, calls it breathing, but he did not invent breath. Man may think he created Science, but it predates him. Our ancestors followed Science, inventing tools, observing prey, adapting according to the gathered data. Those skills don't belong to man alone. What man thinks he knows and what he calls something doesn't change what it is. You are making definitive claims about Science based on man's nature to change, but Science does not change, nor will it ever. If one ignores the world and taints the results, that is that man's problem and has no reflection on Science, but on his own flaws.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 20 2011, 23:36:37 UTC

Language is the construct of the brain, a coalescence of body and mind. From the depths of evolution humanity developed the ability to take the external stimuli and form it into whole so that he may survive. Science developed as a tool aid this survival, to help shape the flood of stimuli. Therefore, as one must change, so must the principles of science.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 21 2011, 00:45:58 UTC

Science develops beyond human observation. With technology, built from Science, the data becomes clear without the tainting of human flaws. The laws and theories that humans accept as truth have changed, but Science in what it is and what it seeks to achieve has not and will not change. We evolve our techniques to get clearer data and our understanding changes but Science and its rules towards progression still do not.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 21 2011, 01:55:29 UTC

All those errors, while under the bondage of human error, changed what made science. Truth, fiction, and science are not lofty ideals lorded over us but guidelines to move the human race closer to awakening, this is the essence of science. And while the goal may not change, the method and the means must.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 21 2011, 06:55:34 UTC

[ A small laugh. ] I see that we're at an impass in ideology. I just can not bring myself to think of something as noble as Science to be something as flawed and changing as man. I do respect your opinion and appreciate how wonderful it was to have a conversation like this. They're rare where I come from.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 21 2011, 08:01:55 UTC

It appears so.

Oftentimes I forget the merit of good discussion here, I feel the same.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 21 2011, 08:14:36 UTC

I don't believe I caught your name the first time we spoke. My name is Caroline.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 21 2011, 08:23:41 UTC

I must say it was a pleasure meeting someone with a passion for science.

Trevor Goodchild, my pleasure.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 21 2011, 08:27:00 UTC

The pleasure is mine.

Do you do any scientific work here? There seems to be a small community of scientists in this town.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 21 2011, 16:13:05 UTC

I've dabbled in genetics and engineering from time to time. I've found it most beneficiary to my former positions.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 28 2011, 02:09:30 UTC

I suppose you've worked on projects more complex than pea plants. Genetics is a field I haven't looked into. Perhaps sometime in the future. What sort of former positions have you held, if you don't mind me asking?

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 28 2011, 21:03:29 UTC

Research I might be able to provide.

Previously I stood as Chariman of the Breen republic, thus I see the link between the body and the body politic.

[voice] yessirmrjohnson October 29 2011, 01:07:47 UTC

Very impressive, Mr. Goodchild. I also appreciate the offer. People here seem so eager to share their knowledge base, it's very nice. The world I come from, you would never see such teamwork across so many disciplines if they weren't drawing checks from the same employer.

[voice] lovethedemiurge October 29 2011, 02:35:00 UTC

Yes, well

[Chuckles.]

There's more incentive to work for the republic.

And what of your world? What does your discipline entail?

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