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jawalter

An Additional Frontier

May 30, 2009 12:41

It's been a few weeks, and because I'm a huge nerd, I suppose that I have an obligation to offer up my thoughts on the newest Star Trek movie. The short answer is that I liked it. I really liked it.

( As for the inevitable longer answer ... )

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thiswakingdream May 31 2009, 04:32:25 UTC

your review was good....i am a Next Gen person so im not all that caught up on my original Star Trek history, but for me, the new Trek was the best of all the Trek movies I have seen...keep in mind, last night Catherine and I watched Wrath of Khan and it was my first time for me seeing it, and i know everyone loves Kahn, but for me the new Trek movie was better....i liked Kahn, it just felt Kahn was not the Enterprises worst threat they ever encountered and somehow it costs Spok his life....I didnt like that...Yes Spok saved them very courageously, but i just felt that they had far worse threats than Kahn....the guy obviously only cared about getting his revenge on Kirk, and Kirk and Spok were easily manipulating Kahn through the whole movie...i just felt that Spok should never have lost his life over an enemy that was so weak mentally ( ... )

jawalter May 31 2009, 20:57:41 UTC

Whoa.

I'm kind of surprised that you don't think Khan was that dangerous. Didn't you see his chest? The man was a genetically engineered superhuman, and I think Kirk even points out that they only survived their first meeting in the movie because Kirk got lucky. If Khan wasn't stuck in the position of having to catch up on modern technology, he probably would have won.

It is kind of funny how many beats the writers stole from Star Trek II, but Nero didn't feel like he had the emotional impact of Khan. His vendetta was really against Nimoy's Spock who wasn't really a lead character and his quest for vengeance seemed a little haphazard. And even though he kills off an entire planet's worth of people, I don't think it has the emotional impact of the deaths of Spock or Scotty's nephew. I think the reason they cast someone famous as Spock's mother was so that her death would resonate a little more, since she has so little screen time.

Good luck with Star Trek III. I remember really liking it as a kid, but the last time I saw it ( ... )

thiswakingdream June 1 2009, 02:52:44 UTC

i think with Kahn, maybe its just because its from 1982 and felt a little out dated to me....i dont know, Kahn just seemed so weak mentally, maybe if i saw the original episode he was in I would feel different......He just came off a ridiculous to me....but it could be just it was 1982 and the effects back then werent the greatest....they were not as good as like Star Wars effects from that same time period...or even Alien....it had a sort of B-Movie feel to it ( ... )

jawalter June 3 2009, 02:54:21 UTC

I don't think you're giving Khan enough credit (and I kind of can't believe we're actually talking about this). The guy hibernated through two centuries of technological advancement before spending a couple decades marooned on an isolated planet, and despite those disadvantages, he still almost wiped out the flagship of Starfleet with a science vessel.

That said, he was kind of ridiculous.

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c_m_i May 31 2009, 10:54:52 UTC

I actually delivered a paper on the impact of that movie here.

jawalter May 31 2009, 21:00:59 UTC

Uhm. That's ... one way of looking at it. Your contribution to Science will hopefully be well-received, and I look forward to learning more from you on this topic.

thiswakingdream June 1 2009, 14:39:56 UTC

you know what i found funny about the Beastie Boys song, is that the song would be roughly 250 years old at the time little Kirk was driving that car...about the same time Winona Ryder made Reality Bites.

i just think if people are still listening to music in 250 years from now, i wonder what category of music they would fall under? like would the call it "Ancient Classic Rock"?

but thinking about music today being 250 years old is a really odd thing....you would think music by then would be so different, so bizarre, maybe not be anything close to what music is today...how do they even listen to music, obviously the CD and MP3 wouldnt even be a format thats used....

And will the BBoys be even relevant in 250 years? They arent really revelant to me anyway, i was never a fan of them, but it got me thinking about what kind of music or bands are around in the 23rd century and how is our music of today thought of in 250 years...