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jellyfish_lace

do the math, fuckers.

Apr 25, 2006 19:07

There's been some debate regarding whether men should have a say in their partners' abortions. Proponents of the idea that since the fetus is half his and half hers genetically, it should be a mutual agreement ( Read more... )

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anonymous April 26 2006, 01:21:46 UTC

You realize that you've done your math incorrectly here, right?

twenty-four hours (in a day) x seven days a week x forty weeks = 6720 hours

jellyfish_lace April 26 2006, 02:13:17 UTC

uhhh... yes. still. WHOAREYOU.

jellyfish_lace April 26 2006, 02:16:11 UTC

I did 24 x 30 x 9, actually

hijenbyejen April 26 2006, 03:02:50 UTC

Yeah, either way you do the math, it's a big difference. Plus the woman has potential health risks from being pregnant. Also you get all fat, awkward, and have problems bending over. Boys have no room to bitch when it comes to pregnancy.

I do find it sad though if for instance a wife aborts a baby that her husband wanted, but then again they shouldn't be married if they have such a conflict of interests.

anonymous April 26 2006, 03:45:37 UTC

it's a touchy subject

...who are you to deny a person the right to raise his own child?

"lengh of intimacy" has nothing to do with the question of a human life....or the question of a person's belief system

...i'm pro-choice (so don't maul me), but you must admit that you've oversimplified the entire debate

...also, this isn't the same "anonymous" as the first commenter

anonymous April 26 2006, 12:58:22 UTC

I'm saying that it really is the woman's choice. I am pro-choice.

There are those issues (belief system, etc) but I'm contesting that the issues are 6750 times more her issues than his, and you cannot MAKE a person have a child.

Denying a "right" has nothing to do with it.

anonymous April 26 2006, 15:41:25 UTC

i understand you're argument...however i'm saying that you can't quantify a person's 'issues' in any numerical terms ( ... )

jellyfish_lace April 26 2006, 17:26:18 UTC

"i agree that a woman has the right to choose because it's her body...but i'm saying that any woman with any ounce of human decency would at least converse with the father...with power comes great responsibility ( 0_0 )"

I'm arguing that legally, the father's signature should not be needed. I would hope that in a relationship, the mother WOULD discuss it with the father. But that's not relevant, because pregnancies happen outside of relationships. It's stupid to sit around and banter about people's personal lives.

"you can't say that a woman has a greater right/responsibility/stake/whatever in having/aborting a fetus merely because she carries the child [...] i agree that a woman has the right to choose because it's her body"

I can, and you completely contradicted yourself. It's her body, and no one should be forced to deal with a pregnancy they don't want.

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hellish April 26 2006, 04:13:23 UTC

wtf is with the anon comments?
I don't understand why people do that. If you're going to read lj, you probably have one yourself, and if you don't then you probably should. So posting anonymously just makes you look like a pussy, in this lady's humble opinion. :P Especially if you can't be arsed to sign a name or something afterward, like most people do when they're commenting on their friend's journals.
You could disable anonymous comments if they irritate you too, btw.

Anyway, I agree. The fetus is half his genetically, but it's the woman's body that has to go through hell and OH SRY GUYZ but women don't belong to you anymore, there was some kind of Women's Liberation Movement that changed that a while ago. At least in most developed countries...

hellish April 26 2006, 04:43:52 UTC

first of all...i don't know the owner of this lj, the only reason i read her posts is because she's a friend of my friend, and i just enjoy commenting on interesting entries...therefore signing my name would be useless, considering the author doesn't know who i am anyway ( ... )

hellish April 26 2006, 13:36:25 UTC

third...did you even read my comment?
Oh, I guess you don't understand how LJ works.
My comment wasn't in reply to your comment. It was in reply to Ms. Jellyfish's post.
Your comment was immediately disregarded because of the anonymity and because you don't use proper capitalization or punctuation. I probably couldn't possibly care less what your opinion is, because I don't know who you are, Oh Anonymous One.

It's funny cuz I accidentally posted this anonymously at first LOLOLOL hellish April 26 2006, 13:37:31 UTC

third...did you even read my comment?
Oh, I guess you don't understand how LJ works.
My comment wasn't in reply to your comment. It was in reply to Ms. Jellyfish's post.
Your comment was immediately disregarded because of the anonymity and because you don't use proper capitalization or punctuation. I probably couldn't possibly care less what your opinion is, because I don't know who you are, Oh Anonymous One.

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I am the original anonymous poster anonymous April 26 2006, 17:54:55 UTC

Firstly, I would like to say that 99% of you do not know who I am. I think that only Jellyfish does, so, as with Andrew's case, posting my name would have been irrelavent. Also, I rarely actually sign into my livejournal account because I do not ever post to it, I merely use it to keep up with my few friends that use one of this. Whenever I do make a comment, I always sign it "--humble monkey." This is for a couple of reasons... One, so that anyone who does not know who I am will not know who I am (kind of like a non-anonymous anonymous post,) secondly, it is kind of a running joke with a few freinds of mine (jellyfish not included.) And lastly, I think it is rather apt ( ... )

Re: I am the original anonymous poster jellyfish_lace April 27 2006, 01:42:37 UTC

"Yes, you are right, a man should not be able to force a woman to bear his child, but I do not think that a woman should be able to have an abortion without giving NOTIFICATION ( ... )

Re: I am the original anonymous poster anonymous April 27 2006, 03:18:16 UTC

Well, you need to define these situations then.

I would say in most situations, it is a relationship OF SOME KIND. (screw fucking with HTML, I'm using caps to emphasize my points instead of italics)

I would have agreed with you about the parental notification bit, but then I listened to my father and he made the point that ANY medical procedure has to have parental notification (including ear piercing in some situations) so I disagree that it would lead to more illegitimate abortions.

I agree that in a one night stand the father need not be notified, and in most (95+%) cases of rape, there is no pregnancy because of the massive amounts of scar tissue. I think that even if it was a one night stand, but the father should still be notified (but not an obligatory notification.) That's a moral decision for the mother to make though.

--humble monkey

Re: I am the original anonymous poster jellyfish_lace April 27 2006, 03:42:31 UTC

Define what situations? I don't know what you're referring to.

"That's a moral decision for the mother to make though. "
-Which is why I think law should have nothing to do with it, relationship or no. I think if I were knocked up (which probably can't happen, but hypothetically) I would do the "right thing" and tell the dude, or involve him somehow. Not on a legal paperwork level, but on a personal/conversational level. It's one of those things, I think, that should not be dealt with by the legislation. Relationships are complicated and confusing enough without throwing a bunch of stodgy old white dudes in the mix.

I thought parental notification was some crackpot way to discourage under-18ers from getting abortions. Sorry for my ignorance.

How's suspension going? You have the most illegitimate spring breaks of anyone I've ever known.

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