Scans: Trinity 6

[jij]

This week at least has Tarot contemplating the Trinity, thus making her immediately more interesting to me.  :)  But the thing that really caught my attention was the conversation between Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman in the medlab.  Ignore for a moment the fact that Diana takes her top off to have her shoulder looked at--her shoulder that was

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[genclay]

okay, I'm not going to get into the whole trinity thing, though Dianna sounds so condescending in this.

What is bugging me is that other than the panel where Dianna takes off Bruce's cowl he and Clark look totally identical. All Clark has to do is run his fingers through his hair, frown and magicaly it's Bruce! Is this a regular thing?

In the cowl removing panel bruce looks like the wolf man :P

Other than that I like the Art. Can i have Diana's bouncy hair please?

[bradygirl_12]

It was always a joke in the Golden/Silver Ages to have the boys pretend to be each other because they looked so much alike! :)

DC needs more blonds! *goes back to work on her essay on the subject* ;)

[jij]

In the cowl removing panel bruce looks like the wolf man :P

He does, I know! I was talking arch_schatten and we agree he looks like Wolverine! What the heck? He looks nice later, though...

[glemsydoodles]

Hold on, explain to me why I noticed right off it's the symbol for Saturn (Diana, your sun-earth-moon metaphor is off), but everyone in the story simply says it's "mystical"? :( Maybe because I'm a ginormous nerd. Yes, that's it.

[msp_hacker]

It's vaguely mystical - that particular glyph for Saturn is from alchemy - but yeah, what is up with that? Though Saturn is also an Earth sigh, I wouldn't associate Diana with the Saturn symbolism. Batman is a much better fit.

[glemsydoodles]

Oh, I wasn't aware of the alchemical bit. I just see them used in the night forecast in the paper every day.

(Bruce as Saturn/Cronus makes me laugh, and think of him trying to swallow Damian at birth or something.)

[jij]

Yeah, and the first time was an Omega. Hardly obscure stuff. It drives me nuts when writers assume that just because they don't know it, the readers--and Batman, for crying out loud!--wouldn't know it!

[icarus_chained]

I think she was on about his romantic relationships, which, to be fair, are generally not all that consistent (because he's waiting for Clark, dammit. Sorry, what?). At the same time, though, that was very ... clumsily handled, and even mildly offensive. Not something I would have thought Diana would say.

Also, and this is just me, but if I were going to link them with sun, moon and earth, I'd have put Bruce and Diana the other way around, no? Yes, the clay thing, but *all* flesh is associated with earth, in most systems. And Diana is named after the Roman goddess of the moon, or at least named with her. While Bruce is of the Earth, spends far too much time to be healthy in a cave, and to top it off can't fly, which the other two can. Maybe it's just me, but to quote Morgan from Dresden Files, 'the symbology is inelegant'.

[arch_schatten]

the symbology is inelegant'.If I may hop in, I agree wholeheartedly with that statement. The whole discussion was handled very clumsily, and the symbolism seems.. mostly fanboyish meta. And the fact that Mr. Detective hardly had 5 lines in the whole 'detective' exchange -not that Clark said much more- makes me even warier of it. If Batman is wary, I would listen to Batman

[icarus_chained]

Heh. No worries. When our characters are bashed, right there, in their presence, incredibly uncharacteristically for the basher in question ... it just rubs wrong. Yes indeedy, she'd better be possessed

[jij]

I think she was on about his romantic relationships, which, to be fair, are generally not all that consistent (because he's waiting for Clark, dammit. Sorry, what?). At the same time, though, that was very ... clumsily handled, and even mildly offensive. Not something I would have thought Diana would say.

THat is true, although again she is one to speak. But I think that's part of the point--you'll notice she seems to have no idea what to think of herself...

And I agree with you about the sun/moon/earth. I know we often posit Clark and Bruce as the sun and moon, but in this case it's...I mean, Diana! I actually shift the metaphor to stars/earth for Music of the Spheres (and, I suppose, The House of the Earth) and like how that works out almost more than sun/moon...

Okay, I'm kind of babbling now...

[mightyjip]

I think if Simone is angling towards "evil diana" and it's carried over consistently, it would turn out quite well. Or at least, not bad. IF they took her cue. Not that there's any consistency in the DCU, (Identity Crisis be damned).

As for me, I like the scene where Diana's being bandaged. It shows that everyone over the years has gotten comfortable with eachother to the point of being family. The flash of breast isn't even sexual to them anymore, nor should it be, really. She's the sister they never had/should have had

[jij]

As for me, I like the scene where Diana's being bandaged. It shows that everyone over the years has gotten comfortable with eachother to the point of being family. The flash of breast isn't even sexual to them anymore, nor should it be, really. She's the sister they never had/should have had.

I would really like to see it that way, and I can definitely see it that way if I kind of squint and clear my mind of the other stuff! If they write them consistently brotherly-sisterly (comradely?), it'll make me very happy.

This artist is working for me in about half the panels, and then very much not in the other half. It's really odd! Clark looking like Peter Parker would be really weird, lol...Bruce even more so, I guess!

[mightyjip]

-If they write them consistently brotherly-sisterly (comradely?), it'll make me very happy.-
Ah, but consistency and comicbooks? Those two things don't really coincide much. Especially after Identity Crisis... which now that I recall, wasn't that the whole darn point of Identity Crisis? *scratches head*

Picking and choosing things to store in my head for my own cobbled sense of continuity is kinda my fangirl survival technique.

I really tried to give this artist a chance, really. Even when I was hearing good things about Ultimate Spidey, I was that turned off. I'm a shallow gal. The artist is that important to me. Now that Stuart Immonen is doing the pages for Ult.Spidey, I might give it another chance. Isn't that horrible?

Not to interrupt, but

[jeswin]

Maybe you SHOULD be writing this. You obviously have a better grasp on the symbolism than the writers do. I already know I love your World's Finest, I'd love to read your interpretation of the Trinity in this context.

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[jij]

I've never written much Trinity interaction, it's true! It might be fun to do so, too, although hard to keep balanced as a slash fan--it wouldn't be fair to be like, "It's really a duo and then WW." :) That's probably why I've never written a whole lot with the three of them, because I'm not sure I'd be fair to Diana...

Re: Not to interrupt, but

[jeswin]

We-ell... Diana did say that she'd been romantically linked to both of them at one time or another. She didn't say that the boys had been romantically linked to each other, so it's sort of a broken circle that way. I mean, they really should try to keep it symmetrical, right?

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[jij]

You're right, that's totally an imbalance that needs to be addressed! *giggles*