The Second Amendment, the Civil War, and how it relates to National Security

[jimbojones2211]

I've been thinking a lot lately about the second amendment. It says "Hey, own a gun, it's your right

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[guyver8]

See the newspaper today? The Supreme Court just granted city governments the right to take people's houses away.

Google check it: eminent domain.

[jimbojones2211]

That's weird, I didn't know cities had every lost the right to eminent domain. Maybe it was just a power that the federal court had.

Usually it works a little more justly though. Instead of them comming at you with guns drawn saying "give us your land!" They simply enact a lein, saying that if your gonna sell the house anyway, you gotta sell it to the government.

Actually, the reason the Elgin-O'hare expressway isn't "finished" is that the government has leins on the land it would use, and is just waiting for poeple to move or die or something.

[ladysun36]

no offense Guy, but thats been around for a while. I learned that in Civics class, one of my friends lost her farm because they felt a highway would be in better use.

[ladysun36]

nevermind just talked to Jimmy.

[lisatanesa]

wow i wish out text books in school explained things that way. maybe then i would have passed history. lmao

[ladysun36]

I would hope you did... You needed to pass American History to get a diploma.

[lisatanesa]

yyyyeeeaaaahhhh. well i didnt really pass. its a long story.

[ladysun36]

...I thought you had the problem in Civics.

[wiktowasichu]

That was quite possibly the weirdest summation of the reasons for the revolutionary war i have ever heard.

And actually, if the south had won the civil war its entirely more likely that we would be a country with an eternal enemy directly to the south of us. This means a constant war footing with frequent wars. Which means even less freedoms than we enjoy now. although its possible that we would be at peace with our confederate neighbors, its just as likely that the alliances that existed during the civil war would have propelled us against one another in the first world war. This means that it is entirely possible that if the union hadnt won the civil war this planet would have already experienced a nuclear war.

[jimbojones2211]

Your looking at it from a tainted point of view. You already read several alternative history views.

[wiktowasichu]

True. And i was stretching the logic as far at it could go. But either way given the exsisting conditions of the world at the time and after two americas would only add to international instability.

[jimbojones2211]

Howdoes Turtlrdove account for the Lousiana purchase and our captured mexican states?

[ladysun36]

*reads about a fourth of this* what cartoon was it that had a character yelling "How would you like it if some king came in and took over your land." and then he started talking about guns... because thats what I'm being reminded of when i read this.... and on top of that, why in the world are you posting a subject such as this on LJ? Like, I'm not saying that you cant... But why?

I'm not arguing, I'm just being a bitch

[ladysun36]

And if you want to get into an arguement about the thoughts of people that died 200 years ago, I will laugh at your and your telepathetic powers.

I laugh at you, because you don't exactly either. Last I checked, you don't have telepatheic powers either.

Don't let the government take away your ability to protect the freedom your fore fathers died to give you.

Last time I checked, our fore fathers didn't die to give us rights, at least not too many of them. They put their neck on the line, but they didn't die. It was the soliders that died.

Alright, theres a few others I could pull out, but I'm done being a bitch.