IT'S SOMETHING NOT FOURTH WALL RELATED

Aug 28, 2011 22:19

Unless our fourth wall friends want to join in. I am okay with this.

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forcedtoplay August 28 2011, 13:02:13 UTC
SO HOW DOES ELLIOT FEEL ABOUT HIS NEW BADTOUCH BUDDIES? (Ace, Yura, and whoever else has molested him)

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kepthishead August 28 2011, 13:26:57 UTC
Starting with Ace because he is easy, Elliot was already aware that Ace was psychopathic because Alice explicitly told him so! It took a lot of worming it out of her, but Elliot was aware that he was kind of batshit. So discovering that he was batshit was not that much of a surprise. He didn't expect him to be quite so ... badtouch, to be honest, he just expected him to be with the stabbing, so when Ace shifted from getting all in Elliot's personal space and making him squirm and instead shifting towards fighting him, this was far safer territory. Elliot can handle physical violence just fine given his upbringing, it's the whole getting in on his personal space and making him squirm that makes him uneasy ( ... )

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kepthishead August 28 2011, 14:05:35 UTC
Okay, so remember how I said in regards to Ace and Glen how Elliot is using anger as a form of empowerment while dealing with them? He can't do this with Yura.

We're not told as much as I'd like about the gap year between Elliot's brothers' death and his appearance in canon. We know that Elliot's mother, after his brothers died, went mad with grief, and then latched onto the idea of living in the Abyss with them forever as an idyllic paradise. This idea was fostered in her by Yura, as we know, and Yura became very intimate with the Nightray family. We're not told how intimate Yura became with Elliot's mother, but we know that she was pretty high up in the cult because of her access to the children of the House of Fianna, and we know that Elliot's father cooperated with Yura in part because they didn't have a contractor for Raven yet and they had an illegal contractor in their house already to do experiments with. (I assume, personally, that the experiments were done with the other contractors and not Elliot personally, though I ( ... )

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kepthishead August 28 2011, 14:08:59 UTC
Then we come to the fourth wall event and Yura is there. Everywhere. He creeps on him while he's awake, telling him that his father let him die horrifically because he didn't care about him as much as family pride and that his father knew all along that his soul was being eaten in pieces. He creeps on him while he's asleep. He gets in his personal space all the time and Elliot feels like no-one would ever believe him if he said anything or did anything about it. His father wouldn't believe him. Elliot visibly swallows his hatred and anger at Yura in the chapters leading up to Oz's second coming of age ceremony, because reacting and yelling at Yura would probably get his mother angry and upset with him, which would get his father angry and upset with him. If his father wouldn't believe him, then what hope does he have convincing anyone else of it?

To compound the matter, Yura keeps reminding Elliot that Elliot is the reason why his mother is insane. If Elliot hadn't made that contract, then his mother would be sane. His brothers ( ... )

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threshprince August 28 2011, 13:04:39 UTC
What is your take on Aradia's relationship with Sollux?

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archaeocalypse August 28 2011, 14:22:43 UTC
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA :')

I am really very reluctant to ascribe a quadrant to their dynamic at this stage, because Hussie's made it pretty clear that Sollux and Aradia definitely have some unfinished business going on. Sollux is important to Aradia - she makes a point of talking to him, hugging him and saying goodbye before she blows up, getting out of her funk long enough to try and make things better for Sollux a little. We know they had some kind of quadrant thing going on before she died. If they thought of their relationship as being flushed, I don't think they do now because they've changed too much, or rather Aradia has. Aradia is in a constant state of evolution in Homestuck, and I think the person she is now is definitely not the person that Sollux knew at the beginning.

I do think that if it was a quadrant relationship, it would either be pale or ashen.

So, are you ever planning of turning Karkat into Pantskat The Sufferer for lulz?

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rideseveryone August 28 2011, 14:29:08 UTC
Oh fuck yes. As soon as I figure out a way that is not completely tasteless with the whole Jegus analogue.

Aradia's thoughts on Karkat? Especially now that he has mastered the almight shoosh.

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archaeocalypse August 28 2011, 14:51:34 UTC
She thinks he's hilarious, but that she's also kind of proud of him a bit for having grown into the role of TROLL LEADER and defying the whole hemospectrum being imposed on him. She always knew he would master it, but it makes her happy to see that he has. Things are coming together!!

SO WHO WOULD YOU MAKE ME APP IF YOU COULD.

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tippedstar August 28 2011, 13:54:01 UTC
elliot do u like vincent

(... this is aj)

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kepthishead August 28 2011, 14:47:12 UTC
UM YES, QUITE A BIT.

Family is important to Elliot. Ever since he was a child he's been told that his family are the only people he can trust to not ... well ... stab him in the back. Sure they're kind of messed up and kind of violent and seriously who lets these people interact with each other ever, but they're his and he loves them to pieces. It's a very pure, transcendent love, and it's really one of his redeeming characteristics (...and also one of his greatest flaws but whatevs)

This brings me to Vincent. Elliot adored Vincent even before the whole Headhunter arc thing. Vincent is hard to know. He's hard to like sometimes, and sometimes he really pisses Elliot off. But underneath all of that is this sheer adoration that this is my older brother and I love him a lot. Sometimes he does dumb things or stupid things or just plain malicious things, but he's family and he has really admirable qualities as well. I mean, even when they're children, Elliot's view of Vincent is "someone to play with" rather than "someone to be afraid ( ... )

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wellexecuted August 28 2011, 15:33:17 UTC
facebook status: it's complicated

( real answer. . . pending. . . . . . . . )

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look at that fourth wall gosh hadengineered August 28 2011, 16:53:14 UTC
if elliot had survived mochijun's epic trolling the headhunter arc, how would he have coped?

ELLIOT, WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YURA AS STEPDAD

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WE WEREN'T USING IT FOR ANYTHING. kepthishead August 28 2011, 21:50:14 UTC
That would depend in part on whether his father is still alive or not.

No matter what had happened, Elliot would have had to learn to live with his guilt - I think it got translated as his sin - and that would not be a pleasant experience. As so much of Elliot's self-identification is tied up in being a good and noble person, the fact that his life killed two families - his own and Leo's - would have been a very hard burden to bear. He would have, because he's Elliot Nightray and dammit he shoulders his own burdens, but it would have been a very hard thing for him to.

He'd first have to reassess what it means to be Elliot Nightray; is he really the knight errant he paints himself in his subconscious representation of himself, or is he instead something far more sordid and broken? An Elliot that survived is an Elliot whose principles didn't kill him, so he would probably fall somewhere between those two poles, though I assume that it would be closer to the knight errant thing if only because it's Elliot ( ... )

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unclednw August 28 2011, 23:55:56 UTC
Pandora Hearts is essentially the story of psychologically damaged individuals learning to live with their horrible trauma

Accurate.

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kepthishead August 29 2011, 00:16:29 UTC
The story would be a lot shorter if Oscar adopted everyone and gave them hugs when required. Well, maybe not Oz, but everyone else.

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servicewitha August 28 2011, 17:18:47 UTC
Talk to me about Elliot and Himawari! And I will do my best to reverse at you. ♥

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kepthishead August 28 2011, 23:13:33 UTC
Basically "Oz with tits". This is not necessarily a kind comparison, because the basis of it is that both Oz and Himawari are people who hide their own tragedy with a smile and Elliot hates it with a passion. He finds it really annoying because he thinks the glimpses of her that he sees sans tragedy are far more interesting than anything else and he wants to see more of that, as opposed to anything else. The times that she smiles are his favourite :(

He is kind of uncertain about their relationship sometimes! Elliot is not as secure as he appears! He wants to be friends! Friendship is hard :(

I can say more, if you ask questions lol phone :( you know what I want bb

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