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[kickass_ninja]

I simply was musing to myself while High today, and I thought I should include my thoughts in a seperate post

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[capachow]

You seem to imply (though probably not intentionally) that while there are bad elements to foreign cultures, there are none in our own. Perhaps that is just my interpretation, though. The humanist/Liberal ideal is, as I said before, to give everyone a flower, and to dance in a circle laughing and singing. This IS an ideal, countered by the natural human belief in dogmas and the pursuit of self-betterment. These, when coupled lead to a populous willing to fight and kill those who oppose their dogmas, if only for self-betterment

[politicaldefect]

Here's the way I see it. Liberalism, Conservativism, Libertarianism, Socialism, and the thousands of other political leanings are all slightly altered versions of the same thing. Yes, on any given day the beliefs, ideals, and agendas of each may appear so alien in contrast to one another that any connection between them would be abandoned, but in truth they are not nearly so different. It comes down to human needs. One man needs food, shelter, security, power(I shall return to this), and gratification; these form the base of what motivates mankind to do anything. One man conquers, slaughters, enslaves, and subjugates to eliminate the competition for such things while another attempts to establish an agrerian commune in which all citizens are given these things in equal measure in exchange for labor(a very restricted example, yes I know). Every human works to do for themselves, or for their posterity. Yes, ideals come into play more often than they should, but actions based purely upon them, without the motivation of personal gain,

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[kickass_ninja]

Warning: Really long comment which basically comes to nothing. My Style is simple free-association of ideas, and it is only by rather subconcsious forces that it has any cohesive meaning at all. This post may appear scattered, but shit, I might as well write it all down

Isn't the point to ponder?

[kickass_ninja]

Back to my main point: Our culture has gone through a thousand years of progressive thought. Since the late Middle Ages, European thinkers, perhaps propelled by the respect for the individual awarded in European culture, have been driving at the purpose of living. Even before the long slump of ignorance, the Greek thinkers helped instill an understanding of the true potential of humans. (The Greeks defeated the Persians even though they were vastly outnumbered, because of intellectual strength of their free society, and the national pride which goes with it) The first action was to ponder upon the core beliefs of their dogma, which led to the Reformation. Then the thinkers began to break from the church all together, especially in England. The first Colony sent by Anglos to the New World was founded purely on the ability of the individual man to achieve want he could (And to send the profits back to England), and with Salutory Neglect, a Culture of free enterprise, the first to be unencumbered by an Aristrocratic elite. Erstwhile,

And another thing

[kickass_ninja]

That I forgot.

Humanistic Laws are laws created to achieve the ideal state, namely, utopia. This is the harmonious state of existence which every human does secretly seek. Completely fulfilled desires, with healthy outlets for Humans' potentially negative traits, will lead to a healthy and happy society. Most of the world is just trying to achieve this, but they have different theories about how to end the suffering caused by human ambition.

I suppose I'll begin the tradition: Do you suppose that Humanistic Law is truly viable? Perhaps we should attempt to define the perfect system in which humans should live. (its tuff not ending a sentence in a preposition)