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greatbigshowoff August 19 2010, 20:18:32 UTC
Funnily enough, I was talking about this in Italian, to an Italian earlier (it has to be said that his side of the conversation was more eloquent than mine, so maybe I;ll do better here ( ... )

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silks_ic August 19 2010, 22:33:57 UTC
I totally agree.
It annoys me a lot.
I'm glad they're bringing apprentiships and stuff back so there is a good alternative to uni

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urasni August 20 2010, 09:00:56 UTC
I kind of agree with you, to a degree. I've always seen University as a place to learn about life first and foremost. For the majority of uni goers it's their first time living on their own and the first time they're really thrown into the social melting pot.

As for what is taught in Uni ...
I can only really speak for IT, but from the admittedly anecdotal evidence of CVs I've seen and people I've interviewed, universities are not teaching people IT very well at all and in some cases are teaching things that are blatantly incorrect.

IT Academia massively needs to connect with the real world, needs to find lectureres who actually know good practice from bad and stop students from joining who only do so because it's a good job to have. When I look to employ people now, unless it's for a very junior "apprenticeship" style role, I much prefer to see experience than a degree. The vast influx of students has basically devalued them to being almost worthless ... at least to me.

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ittimin August 20 2010, 11:48:30 UTC
My parents recommended that I go to uni because of the the life experience and the social experience and the general fun. They saw this as much more important than what I actually studied. And I think they were defintiely right (agreeing with what urasani said above).

Having said that I am one of the few people who are actually doing exactly what their degree trained them to do. Probably as a result of just chosing something I thought I would enjoy.

I have no idea if I would be earning more or less, or contributing more or less to the country as a whole if I had not taken a degree.
Who knows? But its defintiely a worthwhile experience.

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greatbigshowoff August 20 2010, 19:59:56 UTC
I second the doing exactly what my degree trained me to do. Fun isn't it?

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littlesnowy August 22 2010, 20:12:46 UTC
Thirded though Engineering Science is a pretty broad field. Well in that it covers a lot of engineering.

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very_far_away69 August 20 2010, 13:43:57 UTC
Couldnt agree more dude. I went to university to study a subject I loved. Employment in it afterwards, was an afterthought, but luckily I got there. I carried this on with my Masters..i wanted to be good at my subject so when I told people my opinion I would know what I was talking about :)

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