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Dec 07, 2004 12:49


Last night I went out to a bar with Len and my friends Heath and David.  Over the course of the conversation I happened to mention that I was "for all intents and purposes a Marxist."  Of course, those of you who know me, including those who were with me, recognize what this means to me:  an even economic playing field, not godless-communism.  ( Read more... )

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29usc151 December 7 2004, 11:46:46 UTC
I agree - it's important to realize that there really isn't much difference between people, regardless of any "Red-Blue" gap that may exist in the media. It would be nice if conversations such as the one you had could (1) occur more often and, (2) have the same or greater degree of success ( ... )

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leafofgrass December 10 2004, 11:29:50 UTC
I had posted a lengthy reply to the times article, but Livejournal ate it. I have been so despondent as of late that I just couldn't motivate myself to write another. It freaked me out as well, though; I think mostly because of the degree of conditioing that must already in place for someone to think that they are actually providing a service to someone other than the corporation they are "working" for ( ... )

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insert my speculative crap here jimotron December 7 2004, 12:42:06 UTC
yeah i do that all the time, and more often that not i'm never helped out productively by others. especially true bloo believers. i ask myself why this is the case and part of the very long and unreachable answer i get for why this is generally the case goes something like this:

people find value in polarizing attitudes at particular moments, even really smart and strategic people, and on some level i think this may be attributed to the product-value of polarizing attitudes in a market economy such as ours;

polarizing attitudes builds a core constituency, a movements solidarity and creates a certain degree of organizational efficacy, which is especially true in a market economy.

imho this is probably how the developed market conditions of delivery, (or for capitals sake, the importance of production being superseded in late capitalism by the market value of delivery) have impacted organizations the most ( ... )

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Re: insert my speculative crap here leafofgrass December 10 2004, 11:22:59 UTC
Frankly, what you say above makes more sense than een Foucault: the idea of creating polarized groups and then defining one's own group through the opposition to the other sounds much more accurate to me than saying that the positive (norm) is always to be defined through the negative (pathological). The "problem," so to speak, becomes even more decentralized because you can't even transgress against the norm because the norm is only defined through that opposition. Now that's being trapped within power ( ... )

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madamebovary December 7 2004, 22:29:16 UTC
DAMN YOU FOR CALLING ME WHILE I WAS ON THE SUBWAY ON THE ONE DAY I USED MY LUNCHBREAK TO TRAVEL!!!!

I find that there are more barriers talking to people here than anywhere else. Mostly because sometimes when you talk to people they cling. They just keep talking, and dont know when the conversation's over. Or they're scary folks.

I think also, for people who can't elucidate views as well as you can, it's difficult to get into those kinds of conversations. You have some sort of knack i haven't seen in anyone that allows you to connect to almost anyone. I try to replicate it because i think it's good to have, but i don't have it. I could discuss my theories of this to you at length, but it's late and i need to get to bed. we shall discuss later, if we ever get ahold of each other.

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leafofgrass December 10 2004, 11:15:33 UTC
Yeah, generally the folks who start such a conversation can be pretty scary. It is just something you need to gauge once the conversation starts. I imagine the situation is slightly different for males and females as well.

Thanks for the complement, it's nice of you to say. I'm not sure it's so much of a gift, though, as a cultivated empathy and desire to listen.

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anonymous December 10 2004, 04:44:32 UTC
How much of your journal is public? I'm loving it and don't wanna miss out!

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leafofgrass December 10 2004, 11:12:08 UTC
Well, it depends. I tend to post more personal information friends-only, but a lot of stuff is public.

Do I know you?

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anonymous December 10 2004, 21:14:40 UTC
Oh, no. You don't know me. I'm just liking some journals and blogs, am glad to hear that most of yours is public though.

Cheers!

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