Sara, this is for Darryl.

Jun 08, 2006 06:27

Since he asked to read it once I had described it to him, here is the final section of Jaynes' book; it's the section titled "The Auguries of Science". This way, if you like, you can click the cut to get the full transcription, copy/paste it, and print it out to read in your own sweet time, Darryl. Enjoy, homeslice!

A full transcription of Book III, Chapter 6 of Julian Jaynes' The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. )

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le_bonheur June 8 2006, 22:52:31 UTC
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A reply to the wonderful Sara Scannell. leondacter June 9 2006, 00:30:37 UTC
It wasn't sure how quickly you'd get to this post, especially since I'm not sure how frequently or often my sit gets checked. I figured I'd post this so that Darryl could read it without going to the trouble of tracking down the rather large book for a single chapter of it; this way he can print it off and have his own copy, as long as you two have access to a printer; in Microsoft Word it came out at about nine pages ( ... )

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Part II of reply. leondacter June 9 2006, 00:36:43 UTC
Maybe a thorough psychoanalysis would help, but I can't afford it. I have to find it within myself to focus my attention away from these fears, or to conquer them and step from behind the ornate curtain whose shadow I speak in. I don't know, Sara. The thing is it has begun to bother me, and I feel myself moving away from the events of my writing as I try to describe them, moving toward language and conceptualization, metaphor and simile, and away from the reality which should instead mesmorize me. I hate addressing it, because it's difficult to fight a strong habit and even so I'm only telling myself what NOT to do, which seems distracting and mostly fruitless. It's like spending seven years studying the wrong aspect of your field; in fact, that's what I've done. Not that I haven't picked up much from enveloping myself in language, but it's daunting to start from scratch stylistically, suddenly realizing that you only shift so easily between one voice and another because you are actually only commentating on that voice by ( ... )

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Re: Part II of reply. ulyart June 13 2006, 08:48:49 UTC
(Sorry to butt in on your discussion like this, but...)

You amazed me in this comment with your self-perceptiveness and your willingness to be open and vulnerable. It's inspiring to see and I do not take it for granted.

I think if we have conversed so much on LiveJournal, it's because we are dealing with similar issues in our writing.

I feel myself moving away from the events of my writing as I try to describe them, moving toward language and conceptualization, metaphor and simile, and away from the reality which should instead mesmerize me.

This is the kind of thing I remind myself often.

But you see, these summations are easy and clear in this didactic tone I have.

Again, we've had numerous discussions about didactic tone, so I risk repeating myself here, but anyway... The didactic tone definitely has its place-- in a textbook or a pamphlet, or in a personal essay, a casual letter or a work of philosophy. I greatly enjoy catachrestic's posts, many of which are didactic, because they are so clearly laid out and rich in metaphor. They are ( ... )

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