Is Kinnock Useless?

[liquorsnob]

I believe that the UK is better off in the EU than out. As, I assume, does Neil Kinnock.

If we are to win the arguments against the nationalistic right, we must use rational arguments to show the benefits of membership. This cause is not helped by letters such as this one in today's GuardianI can't understand why he thought that people would be

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[macdoof]

To be fair, not everyone who opposes further EU integration is from the nationalistic right. There are seveal important reasons why an economic agreement (like the EEC) with Europe would be preferable, which is not what the status quo is. It is the ideal which a large proportion of Eurosceptics would like to see, and their beliefs are more based to the best way to get trade. Therefore it can be about trade. There are also nationalistic arguments, but I don't think that all the economic arguments fall on the side of the europhiles.
Seperately, hope all is well , and I may see you if you are out tomorrow night. When do you graduate, or will I have to read about it in the Courier!

[liquorsnob]

Yeah, I was careful with my wording there. I'm not totally in favour of further EU integration, but I am in favour of EU membership.

I graduate tomorrow, so might be out. It depends if my dad decides to stay up or not.

If he does, I'll be out, as then I can get him to pay for my booze!

Have you got my number? Give me a call.

[bonappetite]

Because I most likely will not see you tomorrow, please let me congratulate you on a job well done.
And remind your dad to bring you up a pair of cufflinks!

[kibet]

one of the things we join the EU for is benefits on trade, but do we consumers actually see any of that due to the huge tax that oour government shoves on everything or is it more for our businesses notice it more?

this is an actual question as i would like to know what is the benefit to me and i know no politics. And i noticed the downside recently when i could not buy duty free due to being from an EU country and not getting passport stamped either.

Also, the other countries in the EU always seem to have it in for the UK. well at least they always complain about us.

[the_twilighted]

Is Kinnock useless? Not entirely. Just think of all the amusement he has given to the British people over the years. It may have been inadvertent on his part, but he still raised many a chuckle.