It's been a long time since I mentioned something like
s/women has/women have/
I suspect it was fast typing, because you got it right in the next sentence.
;)
Yah, this country has a huge cultural hurdle in getting young women into all sorts of hard science and engineering fields. In many cases, it's still that "women aren't smart enough," despite many examples to the contrary. Other limitations around "appropriate behavior for women" also exist across many cultures and regions.
Thanks for the grammar correction. Of course I know these rules. (I got a ful score on grammar in TOEFL hehehe) It was more like a mental typo :) And yeah... The hurdle here is of a different nature than the barrier I know from my country, but it is still there. :/
If I don't write my strange musings in my journal, then where could I?
Maybe someplace more public, where you could have even more impact? :-)
I feel I can get ... some opportunities that I don't deserve because of my talents.
While I do understand your point, (which is called, "reverse discrimination"), never forget that you are more talented than you ever seem to give yourself credit for.
I thought this would be a rather delicate task, and thus left it to those who knew American teenage girls more. Specially when my actions would define their opinion of a the whole engineering and science fields.
Even here, you don't give yourself enough credit. Look how much you've sacrificed and risked just to pursue your career path! Just that whole episode of you flying to get your travel papers to come to the States was a pretty intense statement of your commitment. The very fact that you need to hide this journal from the men in your country (who would much prefer that you fulfill a more traditional role) speaks volumes. Your story
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Thanks! :) I think women should be free to do anything they want, without anyone treating them differently because of their gender. Not in professional life at least. Science and engineering are just some examples. And you give me too much credit too. But OK I think next time I'll be more confident and actually volunteer.
I would love to re-publish your journal in a way that no one could identify you, (i.e., so you would be safe), so that your words could get to more people, including girls considering similar paths.
And hey, answer an email once in a while... plans must be made! :-)
a lot of good can be done, not by accepting unqualified people, but by explicitly reaching out to recruit especially qualified people. especially underrepresented especially qualified people, if workplace/university diversity does bring the great things that people claim (and I think it does).
I went to MIT over a few other top schools because they really sold themselves to me in the recruiting process. I don't work for Google because they turned me off.
Well that's a valid point. I agree. Diversity does bring a lot of benefits. OK, maybe I will forgive Google people for their discriminative behavior after all. :D Google is especially attractive to me because my field of research needs *data*, and you can find unimaginably large amount of it in there!
You also stand out because of your country of origin.
I'm not saying that you don't deserve this position, my friend, because I think you're qualified for it. But you do stand out - and because of who you are, and how you speak, and how you dress - you're going to stand out and be remembered when placed among your competitors.
Yes that's definitely right. I sure have a lot of advantages. But still, I would rather be treated equal and be remembered just because of my skills. In my professional life, that is.
Narges, it is very true that women here don't seem to have much interest in engineering or computer science. I am interested in both myself but these subjects are viewed as "male" subjects. Even when people know that I work on computers and repair them, they look at me funny as if they cannot believe I can do such things. Our country is still stuck in stereotypical thought when it comes to careers for women. It's just really unbelievable that all this time we're still stuck in our assigned "roles" as women.
Yes that's the term my professor used as well. <'male' subjects> I think it is okay if women don't choose these fields. I mean everyone is free. But when people treat a computer expert differently just because she is a woman that really offends me. :(
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s/women has/women have/
I suspect it was fast typing, because you got it right in the next sentence.
;)
Yah, this country has a huge cultural hurdle in getting young women into all sorts of hard science and engineering fields. In many cases, it's still that "women aren't smart enough," despite many examples to the contrary. Other limitations around "appropriate behavior for women" also exist across many cultures and regions.
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And yeah... The hurdle here is of a different nature than the barrier I know from my country, but it is still there. :/
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Maybe someplace more public, where you could have even more impact? :-)
I feel I can get ... some opportunities that I don't deserve because of my talents.
While I do understand your point, (which is called, "reverse discrimination"), never forget that you are more talented than you ever seem to give yourself credit for.
I thought this would be a rather delicate task, and thus left it to those who knew American teenage girls more. Specially when my actions would define their opinion of a the whole engineering and science fields.
Even here, you don't give yourself enough credit. Look how much you've sacrificed and risked just to pursue your career path! Just that whole episode of you flying to get your travel papers to come to the States was a pretty intense statement of your commitment. The very fact that you need to hide this journal from the men in your country (who would much prefer that you fulfill a more traditional role) speaks volumes. Your story ( ... )
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I think women should be free to do anything they want, without anyone treating them differently because of their gender. Not in professional life at least. Science and engineering are just some examples.
And you give me too much credit too. But OK I think next time I'll be more confident and actually volunteer.
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I would love to re-publish your journal in a way that no one could identify you, (i.e., so you would be safe), so that your words could get to more people, including girls considering similar paths.
And hey, answer an email once in a while... plans must be made! :-)
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I went to MIT over a few other top schools because they really sold themselves to me in the recruiting process. I don't work for Google because they turned me off.
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OK, maybe I will forgive Google people for their discriminative behavior after all. :D
Google is especially attractive to me because my field of research needs *data*, and you can find unimaginably large amount of it in there!
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Google does have lots of data.
I'm working on English<->Iraqi MT research right now and our data are pretty sparse.
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What's your approach to MT then? Are you more an SMT or a Rule based MT girl?
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I'm not saying that you don't deserve this position, my friend, because I think you're qualified for it. But you do stand out - and because of who you are, and how you speak, and how you dress - you're going to stand out and be remembered when placed among your competitors.
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But still, I would rather be treated equal and be remembered just because of my skills. In my professional life, that is.
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I think it is okay if women don't choose these fields. I mean everyone is free. But when people treat a computer expert differently just because she is a woman that really offends me. :(
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