Sometimes, it just takes me watching David Tennant and Billie Piper being ridiculously sweet next to each other in an in-vision commentary for Doomsday to get my spirits up to war against the haters and the fact that I'm very sort of nervous that you-know-who is coming back.
I'm happy that Rose is coming back almost as much as I'm not happy Rose is returning. Because it won't be for good, and as you said, she'd either have to die or leave again. And if she left again, they probably wouldn't redo the Doomsday theme of it being against the Doctor and Rose's will - so she'd have to want it herself. I rather the Doctor missed her and tried to move on but never saw her ever again (except for the occasional sneaky visit to the past to spy on her, because that's something I can see him doing) than have her come back and it be just, wrong.
I'm honestly rather mixed on whether I wanted Rose to come back. I guess I preferred it more in fiction because there Rose could come back and stay, possibly as long as she wanted, nine hundred more years or something like that, but the fact that Rose is coming back in the show kind of puts me on edge because I know she can't stay.
Also, I've seen that picture to your icon quite a lot and I still love it. *laughs* Why couldn't they have shown us the top as well?
Plus, in fanfiction, all the aspects of a relationship between Rose and the Doctor could be explored - on tv, not so much. I think it would be different if it was the end of the entire series, not just series four, but since it isn't, well, there comes the dread.
I'm always going to hope that she'll be able to come back once more, but there's only so many times one can use that concept.
And I just love it. It's one of my favourite episodes. :P
Exactly. That's also why I rather like the 'established gateway between universes' idea as well, because then she could become a recurring character like Martha or Jack. I would totally not mind that at all. I've shipped couples who've been less, so, let's face it, I'm not giving these two up. *cling*
Idiot's Lantern is just adorable. And Fear Her. I'm not sure there was a plot to those, I was too busy thinking that they were awesome.
You know, you're not alone in your pausing and skeptical-ness about Rose coming back. I read a lot of Doctor/Rose shippers responses that were... not really all that excited, while being excited at the same time, and I admit, most definitely, to stopping and staring for a little while after I found out, trying to figure out whether it would be a good thing or a bad thing, because, as a fanfiction writer, I know that the show is (surprisingly?) not actually fanfiction, and nothing can really come with a happy ending - except right at the very end. In fact, as a writer myself, I tend not to actually give happy endings till right at the end, either. Grief is what people want, no matter how much they pretend they don't
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I'm not? Thank god, I did sort of feel like a horrible person for going "Blech, Rose back, do not want! Except I do want, a little, but I don't! I was dead at the time!" I also don't know what to say about the show not being fanfiction, but that's because the Doctor's Daughter really screams fanfiction to me, but I also know that isn't an opinion shared by many people, so I'll stop. I also agree with the happy ending thing, it's one of the main reasons I didn't want her coming back until like.. the end of the show, even if it was just the end of David's tenure as the Doctor, I'd still feel incredibly unhappy. I know that's sort of asinine and impossible, considering this show could go on for several decades, but hey, impossible is what we do. I think
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lol. not that type of comparing. I meant the... well, mostly the "this is stupid because..." I've had a lot of that. One friend of mine in particular said that he liked FoTD so much that all the rest of the season was going to suck in comparison... sigh...
I didn't cry in Doomsday, either. Nothing ever makes me cry in shows- well, music can sometimes, but never at the times when the makers actually wanted me to cry. I've promised that if Donna sacrifices herself for the Doctor I would cry, though. (For instance, I was watching The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe today and I wanted to cry in the battle sequence before anyone had even died in it - I think I get emotional over loss of innocence, I'm not going to say what other silly things I've actually cried over.)
And Wes/Fred!!! *sobs* I only ever watched season 5 of Angel (hated Angel - the character's - guts).
I'm excited that she's coming back, but really quite terrified that they'll totally change her character. I never thought of her as leaving again if she got the chance to stay, but what are the choices? Leave by choice or die. And I don't want her dead.
But I have this whole section of my brain where characters end up living happily ever after, and if worse comes to worse, I'm just going to deny that whatever happened happened. (Like Moulin Rouge - have you seen it?)
I feel a little silly being so worried about it, since I've never worried about characters this much before. But what's that you say? Go look at happy Doctor/Rose stuff? Okay. XD
I agree! One thing that made Rose who she was was her compassion and she seems to be sort of missing it in all the clips we've seen of her. Really, I got more emotion from her when she pops up on screens screaming "Doctor!" instead of her conversation with Donna.
I have no seen Moulin Rouge, but I daresay I will. :D
I'm sure I've never shipped as obsessively as I've done Doctor/Rose. If you are silly, I should be instituted.
Happy Doctor/Rose makes everything better. Did you know it cures cancer? Scientists just haven't been looking into it.
I am very happy she is returning but I also understand that she cannot stay. I'm fine with that, because Rose can't really stay with the Doctor forever and it would be a lot painful for the Doctor if she did, because of that human "you wither and die" esque-ness
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There is a very, very stupid part of me that's going "NO, THEY CAN'T MOVE ON, NOOOOOO", but as I've said, it's very, very stupid part of me that refuses to believe in real life. Or er... the real life of television scifi dramas?
I want Rose to still be a presence and all that stuff, but if I don't get that, then I have to agree, I hope they make a good and final proper goodbye that's not against each other's will.
Rose will not die. If she does, RTD dies. That's not a threat, that's a fact. *face of solemn* :|
I dont think Rose will die.... I think that when Donna sees her at the end of Partners in Prime, that is Rose leaving this universe for what ever reason for the last time!
I love Doctor / Rose and Doomsday made me cry but Im nervous about her return, I want certain things from the next episodes, but I don;t think I will get them :-(
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I'm happy that Rose is coming back almost as much as I'm not happy Rose is returning. Because it won't be for good, and as you said, she'd either have to die or leave again. And if she left again, they probably wouldn't redo the Doomsday theme of it being against the Doctor and Rose's will - so she'd have to want it herself. I rather the Doctor missed her and tried to move on but never saw her ever again (except for the occasional sneaky visit to the past to spy on her, because that's something I can see him doing) than have her come back and it be just, wrong.
So I'm dreading it. A lot.
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I'm honestly rather mixed on whether I wanted Rose to come back. I guess I preferred it more in fiction because there Rose could come back and stay, possibly as long as she wanted, nine hundred more years or something like that, but the fact that Rose is coming back in the show kind of puts me on edge because I know she can't stay.
Also, I've seen that picture to your icon quite a lot and I still love it. *laughs* Why couldn't they have shown us the top as well?
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I'm always going to hope that she'll be able to come back once more, but there's only so many times one can use that concept.
And I just love it. It's one of my favourite episodes. :P
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Idiot's Lantern is just adorable. And Fear Her. I'm not sure there was a plot to those, I was too busy thinking that they were awesome.
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lol. not that type of comparing. I meant the... well, mostly the "this is stupid because..." I've had a lot of that. One friend of mine in particular said that he liked FoTD so much that all the rest of the season was going to suck in comparison... sigh...
I didn't cry in Doomsday, either. Nothing ever makes me cry in shows- well, music can sometimes, but never at the times when the makers actually wanted me to cry. I've promised that if Donna sacrifices herself for the Doctor I would cry, though. (For instance, I was watching The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe today and I wanted to cry in the battle sequence before anyone had even died in it - I think I get emotional over loss of innocence, I'm not going to say what other silly things I've actually cried over.)
And Wes/Fred!!! *sobs* I only ever watched season 5 of Angel (hated Angel - the character's - guts).
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But I have this whole section of my brain where characters end up living happily ever after, and if worse comes to worse, I'm just going to deny that whatever happened happened.
(Like Moulin Rouge - have you seen it?)
I feel a little silly being so worried about it, since I've never worried about characters this much before.
But what's that you say? Go look at happy Doctor/Rose stuff? Okay. XD
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I have no seen Moulin Rouge, but I daresay I will. :D
I'm sure I've never shipped as obsessively as I've done Doctor/Rose. If you are silly, I should be instituted.
Happy Doctor/Rose makes everything better. Did you know it cures cancer? Scientists just haven't been looking into it.
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Every other character I even vaguely shipped ended up apart or vampires or dead. Joss Whedon is a big bastard :P
Ah, there should be more research done. Which means looking into the positive effects of happy Doctor/Rose. Which means watching Doctor Who. Oh no.
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I want Rose to still be a presence and all that stuff, but if I don't get that, then I have to agree, I hope they make a good and final proper goodbye that's not against each other's will.
Rose will not die. If she does, RTD dies. That's not a threat, that's a fact. *face of solemn* :|
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Count me in!!!! :|
~Neverwinter
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I love Doctor / Rose and Doomsday made me cry but Im nervous about her return, I want certain things from the next episodes, but I don;t think I will get them :-(
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