Harry Potter Fans: McGonagall a Spy?

Mar 27, 2007 09:28

I just read the most amazing thing. And now? I'm going to pass it to you. Why? Because I want to get thoughts on this.

[EDIT]The article that brought this up is here![/EDIT]

The Most Amazing Twist JKR Could Ever Put In The Books (and if she doesn't, I'm writing a fic on it) )

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aengus909 March 29 2007, 03:49:59 UTC
This theory is really stretching the bounds of logic and cannon to find justifications!
Why even mention the fact that she wears green robes? I wear green robes, it doesn't make me a spy.
And why is it "safe to assume they were both prefects"? Out of all of the students in the school, they have to be prefects because they are the only ones in their classes that we know anything about, so that makes them prefects? Assumption is never Ok in expounding a theory.

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masteroftrouble March 29 2007, 04:18:18 UTC
The green thing, I believe, is a stretch as well. I never said that I thought the green robes were of any value to this.

Out of all of the students in the school, they have to be prefects because they are the only ones in their classes that we know anything about, so that makes them prefects?

That isn't what the article is saying. It's saying that both McG and Riddle were intelligent and high in their classes. From the information we do have on Riddle, we know he was intelligent and "good" in the teacher's eyes. That's what teachers go for when picking prefects. As for McG, there's unsaid information that points to the fact that she's intelligent. Her cat form indicates that she's curious, always seeking knowlege. Besides that, Hermione is looking to be like a mini version of McG school wise (except for the fact that McG is very much into Quidditch and Hermione is neutral about it).

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orpheus_samhain March 29 2007, 23:01:28 UTC
We know that Tom was a Prefect, we don't have to assume.

As for McG, there's unsaid information that points to the fact that she's intelligent. Her cat form indicates that she's curious, always seeking knowledge.

There could have been more intelligent, talented people with leader's streak (that McG lacks IMHO), we really don't know it. Besides, what's the point? It doesn't make her more of a target or an ally to Voldemort. They clearly known each other. How close, in what circumstances we don't know. McG never said a word about Tom as a student. It could be read two ways, it doesn't prove anything.
Cat symbolises many things.

Besides that, Hermione is looking to be like a mini version of McG school wise (except for the fact that McG is very much into Quidditch and Hermione is neutral about it).

I can't see a point of this statement. It's good or bad and for whom?

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peverell March 29 2007, 12:09:36 UTC
Mmmmmm... You interest me strangely. How intriguing. I feel I should nip off and re-read the McGonagall bits now.

Xia

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courtaud March 29 2007, 18:49:08 UTC
Here via the Daily Snitch. I hope you don't mind.

Some more weird facts about McGonagall...

Voldemort went to Dumbledore when he was made Headmaster asking for the DADA position, and was refused. It was winter, a strange moment to ask for a job that begins in autumn. But the following year (or maybe the same), in winter, McGonagall began her teaching career at Hogwarth.

In the first book, is McGonagall who send Harry and other children in detention to the Forbidden Forest, by night, when Voldemort is there. At the very least, she knows that there is some foul creature slaughtering Unicorns.

At the end of HBP, she really want to close Hogwarth against the will of the faculty. And she has a weird reaction to Dumbledore's portrait.

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masteroftrouble March 30 2007, 00:47:03 UTC
I didn't even think of those, thanks!

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dianaprallon March 30 2007, 06:49:19 UTC
McGonnagall started teaching twenty-four years before Harry was born, in the winter, just as soon as Dippet died. Voldemort comes to ask for the job sometime after that: assuming as Lexicon says that he was born either on 1926 or 1927, he would have graduated in 1944/1945. Then he worked for a while in Borgin and Burkes - let's say, a year -> up to 1946 and spend another then - at very least - wandering around in unknown places. Which would make him coming back, at the very least, at some point in 1957. Of course, if it was january 1957 it does make sense. But one way or another, McGonnagall would have already been there since December ( ... )

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glenien March 29 2007, 20:21:40 UTC

accioslash March 30 2007, 02:18:27 UTC
The first time I saw this theory was on 6/60/06 at hp_essays. I thought it was brilliant. And if it isn't what happens it really ought to be. Yet another generation of Potters betrayed by a Gryffindor. You can find goldenmoonrose theory here: http://community.livejournal.com/hp_essays/170010.html

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masteroftrouble March 30 2007, 02:20:32 UTC
Oh thanks!

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kerosinkanister March 30 2007, 06:29:46 UTC
Hey you! I'm repeating my comment below but I hope it's not true because I'm tired of the "Oh, he was secretly bad" or "Oh, she's secretly good" plot device given that it's been in every book save OOTP. I hope it's only Snape whose loyalties surprise us.

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accioslash March 30 2007, 13:42:28 UTC
Hi there! Oh, I couldn't disagree more about this one. It's *perfect* and it plays in with the Arc Theory that I love so much (ie: the actions of book 7 will mirror those of book 1). Just think of all the fun you could have re-reading the series but now knowing that Minerva was teh ebil. It really puts everything into a whole new light. And I can't help but be secretly delighted that all those Slytherin-haters would have to eat a bit of crow considering that the two people who betrayed their friends and were the true baddies of the series (aside from Voldemort)were Gryffindors.

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