Comments | mellanella: Found this Interesting....

mellanella

Found this Interesting....

Oct 25, 2005 18:45

I got this today, via UMCatalyst News Notes, New England Conference's e-mail newsletter. Thought I would share and get your thoughts ( Read more... )

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urkadur October 25 2005, 18:36:30 UTC

I understand they mean well, but once again I fear the UM General Board of Church & Society is unnecessarily spreading divisiveness.

mellanella October 27 2005, 18:05:43 UTC

I also doubt as to it's actual effectiveness in anything -- what is the point of making a statement in the first place?

the_methotaku October 25 2005, 20:06:15 UTC

I commented on Dean's blog that it's clear that according to our Social Principals this war should never have started, but that it's less clear about what we should do now that the war has started.

mellanella October 27 2005, 18:06:39 UTC

That's a good point. I fall into that category...personally, I don't think we should have started the war. But now that we're in, I lean to the side of we need to fix the mess we've made.

the_methotaku October 27 2005, 19:58:55 UTC

Yes... I don't want an Iran-style islamist dictatorship in Iraq. That would be worse then Saddam, both for the Iraqi people and for the US.

coonkat October 25 2005, 20:49:21 UTC

Mmm, while I agree that we should never have gone to war in the first place I disagree that it is time for us to pull out right now. I believe we must first fix the mess we caused... and have we done that as fully as we should... I'm not so sure.

mellanella October 27 2005, 18:07:46 UTC

Yeah. I'm not one to fully follow politics and whatnot, but the general impression I have is that things are highly unstable over there. Yet...we can't make the Iraqi people dependant upon us...

...long live the Empire of the USA... :-P

walesdrgn October 25 2005, 21:04:06 UTC

I'd agree with coonkat. I've ben posting this type of thing on my other blog for some time. While we should never have gone to war, we did, we caused a massive mess, and now we need to clean it up now. At the moment, there's approximately %20+ of the Iraqi community which would be ungovernable (and are iungovernable) were we to leave. Things would get far worse, I think, if we left before Iraq had a stable, workable governement. The constitution is a goodd start, but we're not done yet.

mellanella October 27 2005, 18:10:32 UTC

It does seem like there's a long way to go.

The other thing that bothers me....what about the troops? I mean, I support the troops, but at the same time, I don't want to invalidate their service to our country. Not believing in the war, while not equivalent to not supporting the troops, does in some small way undermine what they are doing over there. And I don't want to devalue their service.

the_methotaku October 27 2005, 20:01:02 UTC

Why so? I honor the troops for their service, and have sent Christmas stuff over there, given to the USO, etc. You can't expect me to give up my political and moral convictions just because they've become inconvienant.

mellanella October 31 2005, 13:18:53 UTC

Mmm...good point...