Public: A poll about laws

Jun 05, 2004 15:52

I was thinking about laws today, specifically ones in California or here in Los Angeles. We have some really controlling laws. I don't believe they're all right. What do you guys think ( Read more... )

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moredetails June 5 2004, 16:04:51 UTC
All of them are actual laws at present except for several.

:) This sentence confused me.

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melyndie June 5 2004, 16:07:35 UTC
Sorry. I know that sounded bad. :-/

Let me see...

All of them are current laws in my city and/or state, except for a few of them.

How's that?

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moredetails June 5 2004, 16:08:31 UTC
That's better. I just wasn't sure if you cut off the sentence too early or what.. it was like "all except several". So does that mean only some? :)

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melyndie June 5 2004, 16:12:08 UTC
Yeah, I think my brain went weird when I wrote that. Anyway. :-)

I didn't really take this poll (except the first two) because I'm afraid of answering and then finding good points against me. :) I'm a wimp.. I just don't know what should be LAWS even if I feel something isn't a great thing (i.e. smoking in restaurants

You surely have a definite opinion on more than two of them, right? :-) You can always change your vote later if people come up with convincing arguments. I'm still pretty undecided about a lot of things myself (and am willing to change my opinion on the ones I'm "sure" about).

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pansyprincess June 5 2004, 16:33:01 UTC
I really have a problem with seatbelt and helmet laws. I mean, if I have a right to my own body (i.e., I can have an abortion if I want to), shouldn't I be allowed to risk it any way I like, especially when it's not hurting other people?? The governement does not THINK. =P

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melyndie June 5 2004, 16:42:00 UTC
Well, I do think they're thinking--they know that they should get more control wherever they can if they want to push their agendas. It's all about agendas... And then some people sincerely think they're doing this for our own good.

The odd thing about abortion is that not only is it doing something against my own body (which would be fine with me if that is all abortion was), but it is harming another person (thus abortion is wrong). We have so many other laws to protect other people and even protect us against ourselves...yeah, inconsistent.

What are your reasonings for why you disagree with car seats? I don't know enough about them to have an opinion either way.

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sirjake June 5 2004, 16:56:42 UTC
Almost all have to do with the government assuming power where it has no jurisdiction to do so. The only one I'm not certain about is public drunkenness. I'm certain that it's sinful to be drunk at all, but I'm not sure whether or not that's a moral law or a civil law (e.g., one that is to be enforced by the state or by the individual).

One thing I really don't get is the results on the "BUY" verses "USE" with alcohol and cigarettes. Why should it be illegal to buy such items if it's OK to use them? It's like, you can't buy carrots, but if you should happen to obtain them you can go ahead and use them. ? That seems really strange to me.

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sirjake June 5 2004, 16:57:05 UTC
Oops, I didn't mean to reply to another comment. SOrry. :-D

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thatloopyqueen June 5 2004, 17:23:05 UTC
This is not about whether you think these actions are right or wrong, but whether or not they should be enforced by the government.

That is the key, right there. I do think that many of these actions are right/wrong, but (as you can see by my voting) I do not believe that they should be enforced by our nosy, controlling government.

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asourceofjoy June 5 2004, 17:47:38 UTC
I wouldn't want to be pinned down to logic on most of my answers here because a lot of them I've never really thought much about. :-P

It's one thing for the government to keep me from hurting other people (speed limits, cell phones while driving, etc); it's another for them to invade my private life and keep me from hurting myself (seatbelts, helmets, smoking, etc). ...but it's hard to answer regarding, for instance, smoking in public places. I don't smoke and I can't stand smelling second hand smoke (not to mention the fact that it is unhealthy) -- but if I was a smoker, would I tend to view smoking as a personal priviledge which should be allowed anywhere, like private prayer? Basically I think the government is WAY too controlling. :-P

Sorry this is so disjointed...I'm in a hurry here. :-P

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melyndie June 9 2004, 11:23:28 UTC
It's one thing for the government to keep me from hurting other people (speed limits, cell phones while driving, etc); it's another for them to invade my private life and keep me from hurting myself (seatbelts, helmets, smoking, etc). ...but it's hard to answer regarding, for instance, smoking in public places.

Yeah, I totally agree with you there (except for the cell phone issue :-). Thanks for your thoughts!

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alissamarie June 5 2004, 22:58:00 UTC
I'm about to take your poll, but I thought I would . . . ask if you have any inkling of what you'll be doing on June 29. ;)

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melyndie June 7 2004, 13:23:47 UTC
My calendar is still free on that day! :-) I still don't know about working, though. My prospective boss emailed me today to say she still doesn't know about the summer budget, so she doesn't know if there will be a job or not for me yet. Arg! (That is an "arg" directed at the city, not her).

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