gender

May 21, 2008 18:58

I've realized that I have a lot of male friends who don't consider themselves (or are externally not considered) very masculine [Denis (who in fact yesterday told me he wouldn't put himself in the category of "Guys that are friends with Kristi", Casey, Justin]. And also at least a handful of female friends who do not consider themselves very ( Read more... )

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manda331 May 22 2008, 00:54:43 UTC
I feel that its most probably because you hang out with people who are not worried about whether or not they conform to gender norms. A lot of gender stereotypes are just that - roles and ideas that are placed on people by society on how they ought to act.

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 02:19:05 UTC
I know that they are. You might have noticed that I used words like "masculine" and "feminine". The intent to be describing categories of behavior that have been defined in that way, not that my friends are "real" men and women (whatever the hell that would mean). Do you think that the more stereotypical people are just acting like the stereotypes they feel they have to fit in with?

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manda331 May 22 2008, 14:57:07 UTC
I feel that that does happen at least some of the time.

And, Kristi, I am a real women. Grr. *acts "womenly"*

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 15:24:21 UTC
... hot.

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kuenzi May 22 2008, 01:15:17 UTC
Wow, now that you mention it... I kind of feel the same way ( ... )

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 02:20:00 UTC
Indeed.

I'm not sure if it's the politics. I don't know many conservative people to compare it to. I'm also really pumped that my LJ post inspired you to cite knowledge from your class in response. :).

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kuenzi May 22 2008, 03:15:30 UTC
Hahaha, my psych of gender class has been the most absolutely useful class in supporting my beliefs... by definition I am a "radical feminist" which gets a really shitty reputation. You should see me spout off the research studies about the minimal biological differences between men and women, as well as great research about sexism :-P It's really fun. The class was a LOT of work, but worth it in the end. I honestly think I learned more from this class than any other college class I've taken... which is pretty amazing.

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 06:25:31 UTC
Wow. That sounds pretty awesome. I'd like to take that class.

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 06:30:55 UTC
Yeah. I don't think the things that are considered highly masculine/feminine are bad, but then you get all the ridiculously overdone portrayals of them (think sitcoms) and that sort of thing and they become silly.

If you don't identify as female/feminine, how would you describe yourself? (Not that you need to pick something like "I am a man", I'm just curious about your statement)

Not "blah blah blah!"! You are interesting. I wouldn't've fallen asleep during your bisexual video.

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thoraofthenord May 22 2008, 04:23:18 UTC
I feel like I have a few more feminine friends (all here at college with me), but you can definitely add me to your non-feminine female friends list. Matter of fact, I spiritually identify as a male. But, this gets really tricky to explain. I can attempt if you're curious. xp

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muffin_tree May 22 2008, 06:27:24 UTC
Probably that would be very difficult to explain. I'm not very in tune with anything spiritual (Christian or otherwise); I just don't really get it. I did read about the male spirituality thing in your post the other day.

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thoraofthenord May 22 2008, 16:17:30 UTC
Understandable, and hey, not being in tune with spiritual things (of any kind) isn't a bad thing either. :) And good, you have some idea what I mean then, even if I don't make much sense (which I probably don't).

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