Well we really screwed this one up…

May 31, 2007 00:47


For reasons we are still trying to figure out what was supposed to be a well planned attempt to clean up a few journals that were violating LiveJournal's policies that protect minors turned into a total mess. I can only say I’m sorry, explain what we did wrong and what we are doing to correct these problems and explain what we were trying to do but ( Read more... )

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janetmweiss May 31 2007, 08:12:50 UTC
And how, precisely, does liking something automatically translate into being a bannable offense? Do journals get suspended when they like illegal things? Immoral things? Things you just don't like? As someone pointed out in one of the myriad threads discussing this, if I say I support gay marriage on my profile and gay marriage is illegal where I live, does my journal get suspended?

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bopeepsheep May 31 2007, 08:33:05 UTC
IIRC Cuban cigars are not permitted to be imported or sold in the USA, right? Oh noes!

Hey, guess what, LJ - legal everywhere else in the entire world. Gonna ban the smokers anyway?

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imc May 31 2007, 11:02:12 UTC
Ah, but it's not about the smokers, it's about the childruuuuuuun…

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bopeepsheep May 31 2007, 11:05:08 UTC
Tell you what - you don't give our child Cuban cigars or access to hardcore porn, and I won't do it either, deal?

See, 6A, this is how Parenting works. We look after the child. You look after the databases.

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je_regret_riens May 31 2007, 08:41:13 UTC
Oh fuck, so you mean that where I put, not just in my interests, but the whole big shebang about wanting to marry my girl, I'm gonna lose my LJ because I'm in LOVE with somebody who HAPPENS to have a twat just like me?

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je_regret_riens May 31 2007, 08:41:52 UTC
Sarcasm, not actual freakout, btw.

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handgun May 31 2007, 14:03:17 UTC
maybe I'm just blind, but I thought the whole targeting thing was to shut down child paedophelia. ("child abuse, pedophilia, or sexual violence." [and incest])

I mean, I might have missed it because I admit that I haven't been glued to this story, but I fail to see where homosexuality plays a large part in it. Your comment sounds like a "wahhh I'm a lesbian, I am soooooooo ~*oppressed*~" comment to me.

Note that, because I'm sure it'll come up, yes, I am indeed bi-sexual.

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barakb25 May 31 2007, 08:56:01 UTC
No. We have said that we were being particularly careful about protecting children. That is a choice we made a long time ago.

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janetmweiss May 31 2007, 09:06:08 UTC
It seems like many things can be done in the name of protecting children, depending on just what you're scared is going to happen to them. Child molestation/rape, yeah, that definitely harms children. But incest is not by definition linked to children and I hear you came down on it. Obviously protecting the children is not a black and white issue. If some right-wing group comes screaming that we're turning their children gay by supporting gay marriage, will your reflexive reaction be to start suspending journals again? It would be in the name of protecting the children from gayness.

Then again, not eroding the freedom of speech those children would probably like to enjoy is probably also protecting the children.

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janetmweiss May 31 2007, 09:12:04 UTC
Futhermore, since I seem to be harping on homosexuality quite a bit, I will change the subject and say that I would also like to see every pro-anorexia/pro-self-harm community on LJ be suspended (and you might as well take down dieting, exercise and suicide/self-help support groups, too, just based on a massive interest-keyword sweep). Frankly, I suspect the vast majority of their members are children and those communities are outright advocating extremely dangerous things.

Except...the funny thing is, those communities aren't about s-e-x so for some reason humans are still capable of using logic when it comes to them.

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tiggz May 31 2007, 13:44:25 UTC
i have but one thing to say. WORD.

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lurkitty May 31 2007, 09:39:53 UTC
Your choice has resulted in all of the journals that were suspended being listed on websites as suspected pedophiles. So even if *you* made an error "to protect the children", you failed to protect your customers from fanatics on the web. Even if you restore those journals, they're going to have to hide.

Furthermore, you've just shown other fringe groups how to attack Livejournal sites they don't like.

Nice work!

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alowtimidvoice May 31 2007, 09:47:13 UTC

Exactly. I'm a victim of child molestation and rape and now my former journal, onewavebreaks, is listed as a pro-pedophile journal. It makes me feel worthless even though I did nothing to deserve this treatment. I think that free name changes ought to be offered to those affected after their journals are unsuspended.

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autumnyte May 31 2007, 11:43:09 UTC
I am so sorry for what happened to you, that is beyond outrageous.

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nistelle May 31 2007, 13:44:37 UTC
Fucking atrocious.

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apostropher May 31 2007, 13:58:41 UTC
That's terrible, I am so sorry.

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