Show #82 - Scott Pilgrim

Dec 23, 2010 15:52


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guyhatesyou December 24 2010, 16:59:53 UTC
What? Yall still do a podcast?

I guess you are bored with all of the the mountains of money from ANN.

:P

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Scott Pilgrim ext_371216 December 26 2010, 20:27:19 UTC
I didn't realize the screenplay had to be written before the comic was finished. That explains a lot and I'm almost willing to grant the movie some slack for its weak ending.

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Scott's roomate ext_373422 December 28 2010, 20:29:58 UTC
Hey, just to prepare Erin for the deluge of friendly reminders, Wallace Wells is Scott's roommate. William Wallace is Braveheart. :) You can tell them apart because the scenes with Wallace Wells are slightly less homoerotic.

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anonymous December 28 2010, 23:05:52 UTC
I say that once a movie ends it's theatrical run it's okay to discuss the ending. A compromise would be to discuss the film's ending last and to simply give a spoilers alert so people can turn off the podcast. I wish you had discussed the ending.

As far as hammer space goes, it's no different than what happens in most Looney Tunes cartoons. Bugs Bunny reaches off screen and grab anything his heart desires. There are also cartoons where Bugs grabs large objects out of a purse, hat, or his sleeve. Hammer space isn't new or unique to video games.

Ed Sizemore

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Don't Believe the Rumors, Don't Believe Those VICIOUS LIES ext_315904 December 29 2010, 02:11:16 UTC
I am...certainly no fan...of this property, but if I had to lay blame on the cause of the film's failure, it's that it was deceptively marketed to the general public. Normally, this sort of criminal misstep is attributed to movie studios and advertising agencies, and certainly they're culpable here to some extent. But with Scott Pilgrim, the fans of the original source material, the ones who dominate the message in the social media landscape, are primarily to blame here. This podcast, months after the fact, is equally guilty of the very same thing. And here's why:

Every single person--EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON.--who describes Scott Pilgrim says it's about a guy who has to defeat a series of outlandish opponents in order to win the heart of the girl he loves, and there's videogame and geek references galore. THIS IS A COLOSSAL LIE. If Scott Pilgrim were actually that, it would be like the videogame No More Heroes and its sequel, No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle. Those two are some of the greatest games ever made, so by all means I ( ... )

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Re: Don't Believe the Rumors, Don't Believe Those VICIOUS LIES ext_373422 December 29 2010, 18:01:01 UTC
Kind of a similar problem inherent in Green Lantern, don't you think, Darryl? The trailer and story are tailored to a very narrow audience of comic fans, and while they seem to insist to the viewer that Green Lantern is a beloved icon, the last time Hal Jordan even registered to the general public was in Superfriends, circa the 1970's. And that was as a bit player in a show about Superman and Batman. The publicity is rife with images of characters and catchphrases from a lore that most moviegoers are unfamiliar with, but the pretentious operatic vocals, the "In Brightest Day, in Darkest Night..." (which the filmmakers EXPECT the audience to understand out of context) all insist that these are epic concepts people should already know. What makes the character so special? He has "the power to overcome great fear." Phrases like that read good in a comic until you hear them out loud and realize that EVERYONE on the face of the earth has that power, and if humanity didn't have that power built in, we'd still be protozoa at the bottom of ( ... )

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Re: Don't Believe the Rumors, Don't Believe Those VICIOUS LIES ninjaconsultant December 30 2010, 13:29:04 UTC
Yes, yes, "well, you would say that, wouldn't you?" Fair to admit that just because an attack is ad hominem that doesn't mean it is wrong. I certainly thought that Scott Pilgrim would have had a much wider audience, based on what I believed the preferences of that wider audience to be, and I was surprised when this was not so (as, one should not fail to mention, the producers were, as well). I suffer from having a taste that is practically, although perhaps not entirely, separate from the mainstream, and I am met with disappointment at the box office -- both the winners and the losers -- more often than not ( ... )

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Re: Don't Believe the Rumors, Don't Believe Those VICIOUS LIES ninjaconsultant January 1 2011, 04:20:13 UTC
Obviously that was Noah. I just wanted to jump in and say I agree with this part:
It's because YOU are precisely the core demographic for Scott Pilgrim! It speaks directly to YOU. It is tailor-made for YOU.

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