Douchey Moments in History

[peggin]

From now until December 19th, I'm going to be posting various clips featuring Noah at his most douchetastic. I'm going to say right up front here that any one of these instances could probably be dismissed as understandable and forgivable, brought on by the circumstances, and what have you... but eventually that excuse stops working. Nobody is

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[sexyscholar]

"SO WHAT IF THIS IS THE COLLEGE OF YOUR DREAMS, MADDIE? WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?! GOD!!!"

Dear Noah,

[rhiannonhero]

Seriously, why can't people just understand Noah's needs come first, ffs???

[bigboobedcanuck]

It's so interesting revisiting these clips that I haven't seen since they aired, and that I watched when I was obviously a big Nuke fan who was rooting for them. I always hated how Noah screwed over Maddie (one of my favourite "third side" of a TV triangle ever), but rewatching the scene where he pressures her to stay in Oakdale solely for his sake is just...wow. WOW. She was clearly so uncomfortable with it, but he just doesn't let up. Now, she should have stuck to her guns and gone, but ugh, the pressure he put on her! All for his own selfish benefit. What an asshole.

when I watch this clip I get the sense that Noah already seemed to think Luke was supposed to just sit around a wait for him until he decided he wanted to be with Luke, and if that was never, well, Luke should just sit around and wait for him anyway.

YES. It's so clear already at this early juncture. It's not just about being jealous -- it's about being possessive. Time and time again, Noah expected Luke to be waiting for him, and to always be there for when Noah

[rhiannonhero]

Noah expected Luke to be waiting for him, and to always be there for when Noah needed or wanted him. Forget about Luke's own wants and needs. Those were always secondary.

This is definitely a pattern with him, imo. It obviously not only applies to Luke, but it applied to Maddie, and while Richard was "just his friend" (at the same time that Luke was "just his friend" but somehow apparently also his boyfriend based on Noah's hindsight -- DOUCHE!) he certainly seemed to treat him as expendable based on his wants and needs just in the few clips we saw.

I'm actually interested in a character reading of how this is just.like.Winston in some ways, sans the murderous streak. *ponders*

[bigboobedcanuck]

Yes, poor Richard and his car!

at the same time that Luke was "just his friend" but somehow apparently also his boyfriend based on Noah's hindsight -- DOUCHE!

Right? It's like when Noah forced Luke to break up with him. He was all, I'll see you at Java and stuff! And Luke asked what they were to each other and Noah said, We're friends! Uh, Noah? You already broke up with Luke, and just didn't have the balls to tell him. So of course he made Luke have to be the bad guy and be the one to say that it was over.

And yeah, then he still acted like Luke was his boyfriend when he felt like it! The nerve is just...amazing!

[im_with_him84]

Noah - you don't get to choose if you're in a relationship with him...he chooses FOR YOU! You might get a memo if you're lucky.
Ugh!

[me_and_thee]

Dear Noah,

[peggin]

Ha! I always loved when they did that on Friends!!!

[rhiannonhero]

More later, but to repeat what I said to you before:

I love the douchey expression on his face when Maddie's like, "What will happen to you when I go to Wesleyan?" And he's obviously thinking, "OMG. I MIGHT TURN GAY IF YOU LEAVE. I HAVE TO KEEP POKING YOU WITH MY PENIS TO MAKE SURE THAT LUKE SNYDER GUY DOESN'T LURE ME IN WITH HIS GAY LIPS AND HIS GAY ASS AND HIS GAY FACE!!!! GIVE UP YOUR DREAMS SO I DON'T TURN GAY, MADDIE!!!"

SELFISH MUCH, NOAH????

[rhiannonhero]

One thing I love about this scene is that Luke's biggest concern is NOT with himself, and "oh, but I want us to be together" but with how Noah trying to make himself be straight will affect Maddie.

Yeah, Luke is so controlling wanting Noah to not be a selfish douche like that. God.

[bigboobedcanuck]

That Luke Snyder. Always putting other people first. SO CONTROLLING.

And poor Maddie has been through SO much. Getting raped by her brother-in-law, her sister turning out to be an axe murderer or some shit, Casey going to jail, almost getting raped by Adam, etc., etc.

And I love how Noah's like, You can always go to Wesleyan later. I know it's Oakdale and university admission processes aren't exactly the same as they are in the real world, but you don't just snap your fingers and get to go to a college whenever YOU choose!

[peggin]

And I love how Noah's like, You can always go to Wesleyan later.

How fucked up was that? I mean, I'm sorry, but a school like Wesleyan isn't just going to hold a slot open for you indefinitely. If they accept you and you turn them down, then later decide you actually do want to go, you have reapply, and there is no guarantee that you're going to be accepted a second time.

[im_with_him84]

Oh, that Noah. All about him.
Maddie gets into Wesleyan, and Noah says "What about me? Don't go!"
Luke has coffee with a friend: "What about ME!?"
I love the parallels between the Nuke story and the Lure story. For example, Noah kisses Luke and then is all "J/K, J/K, LOL! That was such a good joke! I'm so hilarious..."
Reid kisses Luke and he surprisingly wasn't joking! He was wanting to kiss Luke for a long time!

[rhiannonhero]

Oh, God, just reading that about wanting to kiss Luke for a long time makes me go all, "REEEIIIID!!!" *sigh* I miss him/them.

[bigboobedcanuck]

I miss them SO much. Sometimes it hits me that we're really never going to see them again. LE SIGH.

[peggin]

Me, too! And I suspect it will never go away... five years later, I STILL feel that way about Brian & Justin, too! :(