Douchey Moments in History

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Welcome to another edition of Douchey Moments in History!

"Maybe this is about you being jealous"
You've got to love the way Noah always seems to take ANYONE'S side, other than Luke's. In this clip, Luke overhears Ameera calling the prison and trying to talk to Col. Mayer, after she had told Noah she wouldn't. Luke tells Noah about it, and Noah

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[pghbekka]

Oh, Noah! Why so douchey?

scum sucking emotionally abusive asshole

Almost. How about: selfish, hypocritical, scum sucking, emotionally abusive asshole. Really I think you can never use too many negative adjectives when describing Noah.

"You shouldn't have turned her over to the police"

I was just thinking about this in contrast to the reconciling Christmas story, when Luke says he went to the police and Jade ended up in jail, and Noah says "That's what the guy I fell in love with would do." Was I the only one who screamed, "Noah, GTFO!" at the screen during this supposedly sweet and tender moment? Guessing I'm actually in good company here.

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you can never use too many negative adjectives when describing Noah.

Very true!

Luke says he went to the police and Jade ended up in jail, and Noah says "That's what the guy I fell in love with would do."

Yes, Noah, that's what the guy you fell in love with would do -- go to the police when a crime has been committed. Except, you know, when NOAH wants him to help cover up a crime, in which case the guy Noah fell in love with would NEVER go to the police. Too bad for Noah, the guy he fell in love with only ever existed in his head. Douche.

I don't remember if I actually shouted anything at my screen when that scene aired, but I do remember honestly and sincerely hoping something would happen between Luke and his step-grandfather, even if it only lasted long enough to get Noah out of Luke's life once and for all.

[rhiannonhero]

Noah = hypocrite. Hate him.

[charley_ryan]

Noah's suckage is off the charts. Why did I once like Nuke? *Iz baffled*

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We were sucked in by the complete absence of any other gay couples on TV at the time. :(

[charley_ryan]

*Nodz* That's it. And I think alot of us felt that we had to support Nuke because if they got the least bit of resistance then the show would have scrapped all the gay characters (see: Kyle/Fish, OLTL). I loved Luke and didn't want to see him shipped off to parts unknown.

[rhiannonhero]

I think you've got a great point here. We were held hostage and couldn't demand better for fear of losing the bad that we had. Good point, this.

[mooyoo]

Ugh, this whole storyline was such a mess. I really don't understand how the writers thought Nuke could come back from this. Col. Mayer was a crappy father and Noah obviously suffered as his son (we can probably blame some of Noah's douchetastic behavior on his father's influence), but there's no justification at all for how much of a hypocritical ass Noah is throughout this storyline. It makes no sense that he would continually go off on Luke and side with both Ameera and his father (one person he hasn't known for more than a couple of, what, months? by this point, and the other who has repeatedly tried to kill people, broken out of prison, manipulated people, etc etc etc) over Luke. His anger at Luke for calling the cops is so appalling - Noah, when you'd rather your father, the man who tried (twice!) to kill your boyfriend, go free than your boyfriend do the right thing and call the cops, thereby protecting you all from your father's batshit craziness, there's something irrevocably screwed up with the relationship and it's probably

[pghbekka]

Noah prefers to pay lip service to caring for Luke's feelings, safety and well-being, rather than actually doing anything or truly caring about it. Witness when Luke's dad "died." Noah was pissed off that Luke would "abandon" him to, I don't know, take care of his mother and his 3 YOUNGER SIBLINGS during this difficult time. And the Oakdale transponder was apparently suddenly broken and Noah was prematurely blind so he couldn't figure out how to get to Luke's house and you know BE THERE FOR HIM, but he could complain that he didn't see him. He and Luke could try to pretend that going off to Hollywood during Luke's dad's FUNERAL was Luke's fault (yet again), but really? And then later, when Noah's supposed to be there for Luke, instead he goes back to the professor who hit on him (and ya know REALLY liked his movie and gave it the greenlight and gave Noah opportunities) to beg him to take him back, and when the professor suggests bailing on Luke to do something for Noah, Noah says I shouldn't, but DOES

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Witness when Luke's dad "died." Noah was pissed off that Luke would "abandon" him to, I don't know, take care of his mother and his 3 YOUNGER SIBLINGS during this difficult time.

Yes, let's all marvel at the way Noah looks at things:

Noah decided to join the army for a FEW YEARS -- Luke is just supposed to accept it and put his life on hold until Noah returns.

Luke decides to move back into his mother's house for a FEW WEEKS to help her out -- SHOCK! HORROR! HOW COULD LUKE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT FIRST GETTING NOAH'S PERMISSION DISCUSSING IT WITH NOAH?

[pghbekka]

Sigh! That Luke, always putting HIS needs first. How selfish....Wait. "Strike that, reverse it."

[sleeper6]

Just like Noah, willing to believe everyone but Luke. This s/l upset me so much because Noah knew--he knew--how much it all irked Luke but he still went along with it. Ugh.

And everytime he'd call Ameera his "wife" was just wrong.

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And everytime he'd call Ameera his "wife" was just wrong.

I so totally agree! it left me feeling kind of like Noah was doing it deliberately to hurt Luke, making it clear that this woman he barely knew had a kind of hold on him that Luke would never have. Like he was saying, "Ameera is my wife. Who are you? You're nobody!" Which, yeah, he never actually said, but I really did feel like that was what he meant. What a douche!

[rhiannonhero]

Noah was doing it deliberately to hurt Luke, making it clear that this woman he barely knew had a kind of hold on him that Luke would never have. Like he was saying, "Ameera is my wife. Who are you? You're nobody!" Which, yeah, he never actually said, but I really did feel like that was what he meant.

I agree completely with this. It was like he was saying to Luke, "She's my wife, and thus I know her in an intimate way that I do not know you and will never know you." And this isn't about sex, but about something beyond that

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Noah treated the women he was with better than he ever treated Luke. It almost leads me to wonder if he wanted Luke to be like a "little woman", sexist though that may be, and when he wasn't, when he was actually a man with manly ways of being in the world, Noah was resentful.

I've said this a couple of other places now, so sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I really think Noah would have LOVED it if he could have been married to Ameera in all ways other than the bedroom, and had the whole world think he was a married straight guy, and Luke could have been the dirty little secret he kept on the side that nobody knew about. I really think that would have been Noah's idea of an ideal life.

[suzvoy]

I have nothing to say, except:

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