A bit of DMC trivia

Nov 22, 2008 22:07

I was watching Dead Man's Chest tonight on USA, and it reminded me of an interesting find I made while researching for fic. One particular speech by Davy Jones has always stood out, to me. It has a particular rhythm and poetry that doesn't quite fit the rest of the dialogue. This is the passage where Jones first invokes the Kraken ( Read more... )

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djarum99 November 23 2008, 06:52:43 UTC
TnT confirmed the connection on Wordplayer, but I can't provide a link - that place defeats me when it comes to searches.

I couldn't resist watching DMC on TV either, even though I own the darned DVD. The illusion of shared experience, I guess :-)

The kraken's death provided one of the more powerful moments in AWE, but yeah. Bummed.

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obfusc8er November 23 2008, 11:06:57 UTC
TnT confirmed the connection on Wordplayer, but I can't provide a link

Thanks for the info. I'll take your word for it. That speech is one of my favorite parts of all the Pirates movies. Bill Nighy really nailed it. Too bad you can't really hear half of it, what with the sound mixing.

The kraken's death provided one of the more powerful moments in AWE, but yeah. Bummed.

Agreed. I guess it's in Kraken heaven, which is full of slow ships and tasty morsels. lol It was such a faithful pet, too, like Old Yeller, only not cute...

I couldn't resist watching DMC on TV either, even though I own the darned DVD. The illusion of shared experience, I guess :-)

Shared experience, indeed. That movie gave me a very strange fic-dream. I just got up in the middle of the night to write it all down before I forget it. It'll be a separate post.

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pghfoxfan November 23 2008, 14:36:06 UTC
Do people really "die" on those films?

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obfusc8er November 23 2008, 19:36:59 UTC
Several people do, actually. The Kraken doesn't really count as a people, but I miss him/her/it anyway.

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pghfoxfan November 23 2008, 20:27:38 UTC
I thought they just turned into black and white ghosts.

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mamazano November 23 2008, 15:57:15 UTC
Yes, I remember when Terry Rossio confirmed it was from the bible. A powerful speech, and so fitting as well. I can find the link and send it to you if you are interested.

I saw this scene and the death of the Kraken as more of a symbolic moment, a passing on of the mysterious, the unknown. The edges of the maps filled in, the mystery removed. The New World, where one must find their place in it or perish.

There is an excellent interview with Ted and Terry in the May/June 2007 issue of creativescreenwriting magazine where they mention the passing of the Kraken as having a metaphorical meaning... "not only is it the end of era of piracy, but an end to all fantastical things. Krakens and mermaids, and sea goddesses, ghost ships, outrageous adventures on the high seas, and even characters like Barbossa and Captain Jack Sparrow."

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obfusc8er November 23 2008, 19:44:19 UTC
There is an excellent interview with Ted and Terry in the May/June 2007 issue of creativescreenwriting magazine where they mention the passing of the Kraken as having a metaphorical meaning...

I understand why they killed the Kraken. I just sort of wish it hadn't happened offscreen. But then the movie would've been another hour long. lol

It is a great scene, though. Probably has the most angst and gravity about it.

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