"Somewhere between nowhere and goodbye"

Jul 07, 2005 00:13

Jed says he doesn't like to watch movies with me because I am overly critical. Amber said the same. I can find complaints in movies I absolutely adore, whether it was the action, the acting, the plot, the lighting, the music or some other nitty-gritty detail, I will always find it ( Read more... )

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microscopic_cog July 7 2005, 12:16:25 UTC
Except Sin City was lacking in a good female lead. No seriously, aside from any gender jokes and all, I think that it was really weak in that area. Jessica Alba is god damn gorgeous, but she's no Maryl Streep, and they didn't have any other females that could have fit the 'girl with a personality' role. I am not saying any of the characters we're booming with 3 dimensional persona's or anything, much in the style of Pulp or film noir, but what was fine for the female characters sixty years ago (Drab, attractive, always helpless) certainly gets tiring over time..
Other then that, your right, it was perfect.

Yeah I saw Million Dollar Baby in theatres a while back. It was quite a satisfying movie, and it's a joy to see Clint Eastwood playing roles that he is accustomed to. Hillary Swank..sigh, she kills me every time. I hope she is going to stick around Hollywood for quite a few years to come.

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valderan July 8 2005, 07:28:37 UTC
Okay. I grant you I am not a woman and thus do not have a woman's opinion, but I thought Jessica Alba's character did have something of a personality. That chick was messed in the head something fierce! I do concede the point that there were no female leads but it is as arguable that there were no male leads either. It was after all three short stories. That it followed the three men didn't make it "their" story exclusively. It could just as easily have been the story of the old town girls trying to stay independant, or the blonde girl's... Goldie's? quest to avenge her sister or Jessica Alba coping with the horrors of her past and it's inevitable return. I like the last comparison the most because she has to cope with the way men have betrayed her as well as how they have helped her. On the same vein you could look at the psychology of an almost victim of sexual assault... well, not really almost... became a stripper or at least a really flagrant dancer at the grossest bar in town ( ... )

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Just agree with me. I'm always fucking right. oriann July 8 2005, 09:58:04 UTC
Seth, I accept this pot of coffee/several hour proposition and look forward to it. And Justine...well...you're just stupid and wrong.

Seriously though, it really comes as no suprise that Sin City had no female leads as they don't suit the genre. Pulp Fiction is built upon, and relies solely, on stereotypes. None of the characters were particuarly strong and none of them could carry a two-hour movie on their own. However, for the genre, that's all perfect. It worked sixty years ago and it works today if you have the understanding that it was written sixty years ago*. If you're looking for a modern movie or modern sentiments, Sin City is simply the wrong movie to look at.

*Yes, I know the actual Sin City comics were written in the past few years, but they're built upon a decades old genre and didn't try to "modernize" the genre in anyway, choosing rather to stay true to what it was.

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pagoda_ July 7 2005, 23:54:52 UTC
I think ninjas AND a horse drawn buggy race would have made even less sense but still needs to be in a movie sometime. Can you imagine a Victorean fop racing against ninjas? "Egad Rodrick! We've made a capital lead against those oriental devils!" "Pray silence Lord Stevens, for we approach Dead mans curve!" Suddenly Ninjas leap from cover by the side of the road and begin hurling shurikens! "What a dire misfortune!" "Verily!"

Hot damn this could be good.

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Artistic beauty. oriann July 8 2005, 09:58:51 UTC
Derek, this is one of the best posts I've read in a long time. I may not always agree with your views on art, but this post is a thing of beauty.

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