I wonder if suicidal thoughts have some sort of genetic imperative...

Jul 10, 2013 18:22

...or depression, or mental illness of any kind really, or if it is just a random mutation/fluke ( Read more... )

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molasses July 11 2013, 06:07:47 UTC
I don't have academic papers on it.

but i know that it's common and that sometimes it feels comforting. a choice we might never make (there are so many choices we don't make) but that stands just the same.
a bit of control we have when little else feels possible.

i did a very long DBT program over the past couple years that was helpful for many things, not the least of which was terrible self talk.
i had quite an extensive script tearing me apart.

that mostly doesn't happen anymore or, when it does, ..it's a choice i don't make.

sending handholding presence. summernight, breathing deeply

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papiergeest July 13 2013, 17:05:27 UTC
It is true, it CAN feel comforting at times, like "I could tell this all to fuck off if i want to." But comforting, most of the time it's not.

I've been to counseling several times before. I ought to go again. think I will, but probably not til after i have moved. counseling is hard work and it existentially tires me out, so much self reflection. Not that it isn't helpful or good. Two steps forward, one step back...it's just a lot of steps to take and my figurative feet get tired of it.

Thank you for your sweetness mizz mo. <3

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papiergeest July 13 2013, 17:06:10 UTC
Thank you ((hugs back))

Oh man, these kind of thoughts keep me up at night, my brainmeats are weird.

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khall July 11 2013, 19:38:29 UTC
Hey, I have a book, I forget the name now. Basically it talks about how self-destructive thoughts crop up in people in an over-populated civilization. The idea being, it is nature's way of making sure what resources are available, stretch far enough. It was much better expressed in the book, i'll try to find the name of it.

K.

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papiergeest July 13 2013, 17:02:40 UTC
Yeah, sometimes i get this feeling that it is like a lemming/herd animal population clearing thing, but then that makes me mad that i am saddled with it all the time. Like why should I be the one who wants to kill myself, huh? IDK.

But anyway, if you do find the title of the book, i would be interested.

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ext_2064189 July 13 2013, 19:40:31 UTC
Here are some peer review scholarly articles. Unfortunately, all my credentials have expired since I graduated but you can still grab the article cites and find them that way.

The role of genetic variation in the causation of mental illness: an evolution-informed framework Genetic variation in the causation of mental illness,
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v14/n12/full/mp200985a.html

An evolutionary hypothesis of suicide: why it could be biologically adaptive and is so prevalent in certain occupations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21879643

If you can't find those full articles I did find some "free" information here,

Origin of Intelligence and Mental Illness Linked to Ancient Genetic Accident
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121202164325.htm

Evolutionary ( ... )

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