Ich muß sagen - mein Hauptproblem bei der ganzen Sache ist, dass und wie sie darüber gepostet hat. Hätte sie das zu ihrem Privatvergnügen gemacht, mit ein, zwei Freunden den Spaß geteilt und das Ganze wäre zufällig rausgekommen, hätte ich jetzt nicht diesen "ich fühle mich ausgelacht"-Eindruck. Oder nicht so sehr. Aber sie ist ja offensichtlich so unglaublich stolz auf das, was sie getan hat, dass sie damit in ihrem DW-Journal angibt. Und das finde ich völlig daneben. What she did is just *points to icon*.
*kicher* Noch nicht genug wank im Merlin-Fandom? *g* Also, der Eintrag um den es geht ist inzwischen nicht mehr öffentlich, aber hier: http://danceswithgary.livejournal.com/426854.html ist ein Screencap zu finden.
Jetzt ist er wieder öffentlich: http://toft.dreamwidth.org/548369.html Und ihre Entschuldigung auch. Mir fehlen die Worte über so viel ... ich weiß nicht wie ich's nennen soll. "Naivität"?
I never spent much time on storyfinders; I have the worst memory when it comes to that sort of thing and I only recently learned how to BM stuff in an organized manner. So her antics didn't affect me directly, though I know several people that it did. This is the sort of thing that I would normally stay out of as well, and when it first unfolded, I avoided several opportunities to comment on it. However, I received feedback on an older story yesterday--a very nice, enthusiastic comment. My split-second, initial reaction? I didn't believe it was real.That is the legacy that Toft has left. In a playground she admits she no longer participates in. What, you can't bear the fact that someone else still likes to play there, so you have to come in an pour gasoline all over the fields? Bitch is too kind a word
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She's posted an apology by now and I'm truly at a loss of words about it. Even if I'd buy into her "that wasn't what I wanted" spiel, the nicest thing I can think is "how could you've been this naive?"
To me it's like posting an apology for deliberately releasing salmonella into a water supply because she thought the ensuing bouts of diarrhea might be funny and it never crossed her mind that for some people it could be lethal.
Meh, the damage is done.
Edit: I went to her apology page and started a comment several times before deleting it. She doesn't sound very chastened to me and the more I contemplated writing her a response, the angrier I got. I'm not going to waste time and energy over this one, but I'd like her to know her little social experiment has bigger ramifications than she realizes.
I have the impression she's somehow still missing the point. There's just a basic component to it that she doesn't seem to get:
She led people around on their noses, gave them the runaround and then she told them about it without even expecting a good portion of those people might feel upset about it?
She didn't think her actions had any impact on people?
How out of touch with basic human reactions can one be?
Again, the context doesn't really matter - this could have happened in a completely different area, politics, work-related etc. it's not fandom-specific.
Where the heck does her mind live?
That's one of the times I really wish I had a better (and easier) grasp on the English language to express my thoughts more properly.
Yeah, you're right, better not wasting energy on that - I should go to sga_squee and participate in that. And I still owe you an answer regarding that "review". *g*
I left comments concerning this "phenomenon" both in Tex's and Danceswithgary's LJs. I was really shocked to find out about that. I was shocked that this all was just a "hobby" for her. And I was shocked to see how many people thought it was hilarious. I decided that I wouldn't waste a minute to leave a comment for her - because with her attitude - she wouldn't even consider taking seriously everything I wanted to say.
I enjoy finding things for people - pics, links, etc. I enjoy helping people in general. But for me it felt like a slam on the cheek. Making fake requests only to make sure that some "idiots" would devote their time and effort to go and look for such "non existent" stories. I used the word "idiots" because that's how I see it. She was making idiots of decent, friendly and helpful people. I find such behaviour disgusting.
I did read her apology and find some of her "reasons" ridiculous - I agree with your comment. I hope she takes all the points you made to heart.
There are a lot of people thinking just what you think and feeling the same.
Like Sinaida explains above, it's hard to imagine that somebody who has been as long in fandom as she has and has the ability to get into the fictitious character's minds so well can compose such an entry (the "confession") while seriously believing that nobody would mind what she did or even get angry about it. And her apology doesn't clear up how this could have happened. Somehow it doesn't really add up. She's not exactly a newbie who didn't know what she was doing and that's why I take her apology with a giant grain of salt.
Thank you for assuring me about my comment, I'm not always sure about my ability to express thoughts in English when I'm angry because of something like this.
I'm still shaking my head over her explanation. Come on, I mean - not believing that people participating in a storyfinders community do actually *search* for fics? *headdesk*
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What she did is just *points to icon*.
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Also, der Eintrag um den es geht ist inzwischen nicht mehr öffentlich, aber hier: http://danceswithgary.livejournal.com/426854.html ist ein Screencap zu finden.
Toft hat übrigens eine Entschuldigung und Erklärung angekündigt. http://toft-froggy.livejournal.com/557655.html
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Und ihre Entschuldigung auch.
Mir fehlen die Worte über so viel ... ich weiß nicht wie ich's nennen soll. "Naivität"?
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Meh, the damage is done.
Edit: I went to her apology page and started a comment several times before deleting it. She doesn't sound very chastened to me and the more I contemplated writing her a response, the angrier I got. I'm not going to waste time and energy over this one, but I'd like her to know her little social experiment has bigger ramifications than she realizes.
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She led people around on their noses, gave them the runaround and then she told them about it without even expecting a good portion of those people might feel upset about it?
She didn't think her actions had any impact on people?
How out of touch with basic human reactions can one be?
Again, the context doesn't really matter - this could have happened in a completely different area, politics, work-related etc. it's not fandom-specific.
Where the heck does her mind live?
That's one of the times I really wish I had a better (and easier) grasp on the English language to express my thoughts more properly.
Yeah, you're right, better not wasting energy on that - I should go to sga_squee and participate in that. And I still owe you an answer regarding that "review". *g*
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I enjoy finding things for people - pics, links, etc. I enjoy helping people in general. But for me it felt like a slam on the cheek. Making fake requests only to make sure that some "idiots" would devote their time and effort to go and look for such "non existent" stories. I used the word "idiots" because that's how I see it. She was making idiots of decent, friendly and helpful people. I find such behaviour disgusting.
I did read her apology and find some of her "reasons" ridiculous - I agree with your comment. I hope she takes all the points you made to heart.
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Like Sinaida explains above, it's hard to imagine that somebody who has been as long in fandom as she has and has the ability to get into the fictitious character's minds so well can compose such an entry (the "confession") while seriously believing that nobody would mind what she did or even get angry about it. And her apology doesn't clear up how this could have happened. Somehow it doesn't really add up. She's not exactly a newbie who didn't know what she was doing and that's why I take her apology with a giant grain of salt.
Thank you for assuring me about my comment, I'm not always sure about my ability to express thoughts in English when I'm angry because of something like this.
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