Comments | penisxcore: to our friends in the great white north

penisxcore

to our friends in the great white north

Aug 10, 2009 20:45

im sitting on my mother's couch in auburn, california, waiting for her to get off work and take me to the airport. since this is pretty much the end of my "vacation" i thought i might as well recount how it went. i stayed away from the internet (for the most part) until the last day or so. now its time to get back to LA and do the thing i call my ( Read more... )

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ext_202181 August 11 2009, 06:52:48 UTC

Glad that you had a great time back at your hometown (sorry to hear about the food poisoning though)! That was a long entry. Any special thoughts or new outlook in life after all the chats you had with various pple back home? Had your existential crisis figured out? :p

You are a non-believer of marriage/kids huh? I can understand. Just based on this entry, there were already several examples of failed marriages that you saw around you. Imho, however, being skeptical about the concept of marriage makes it even harder for marriages to last since ultimately a marriage only works with trust and commitment from both parties.

Why did the things that your friend Grace say take you aback? The topics didn't look anything too extraordinary to me.

PS: From some of the pictures I saw on the internet, Lake Tahoe looks like a really beautiful place (you are so lucky)! Gosh, I really hate the concrete jungle that I live in.

ww0308 August 11 2009, 23:03:37 UTC

A marriage only works with the acceptance of suffering. That suffering may indeed be worth it for the benefits, in which case the acceptance is justified, but you can understand why just accepting suffering isn't all that popular, now that divorce is normal and people don't feel they have to.

I understand why an anti-racist atheist would be taken aback by Grace talking a lot about her church and complaining about a fuckton of Latinos and a Russian. Although I don't doubt that the Russian Fulbright Scholar roommate was crazy, or at least bizarre; most humans seem bizarre when you live that close to them, more so if they're much brighter than average, more so if they're from another culture.

(Side note that probably no one will ever care enough to point out to Grace: Now that the Latinos live in the US, they're not Mexicans any more, and the ones from other Latin American countries like Honduras or Nicaragua never were.)

ext_202181 August 12 2009, 02:08:15 UTC

The word "suffering" sounds depressing :p. Perhaps tolerance and understanding (which are important in any form of human relationship) would be better? It's nice to know that there's always the other person who will share all your happiness, support/encourage you when you are down etc. It's kind of different from having a boyfriend/girlfriend because you know this person is a lifetime companion who will always be there. I suppose one can view marriage as a continuation of the love 2 persons have for each other. Over time, love as an intense emotional feeling may fade (which almost always does) but the relationship evolves to the stage where the other person understands you so well that he/she becomes your best friend. There will be problems along the way, but being married may make you more committed to resolving the problems rather than to simply avoid the problems by walking away (both parties must be willing to work on the problems though). Sometimes certain problems do not disappear by walking away - the problems just recur in ( ... )

theliveofv August 18 2009, 06:15:49 UTC

I wouldn't say suffering. I would say sacrifice is more accurate, which might include suffering, but marriage can totally exist without suffering...not without sacrifice. Am I making sense? :)

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ww0308 August 11 2009, 22:54:43 UTC

Cool.

My friends and classmates getting married and having kids just makes me glad I'm not doing any of that, and don't ever plan to. Although their careers do make me feel old, or rather, undistinguished for my age.

Do you want kids someday?

penisxcore August 12 2009, 02:21:38 UTC

i dont plan on it at this point in my life. ive considered getting a vasectomy. but theres something in the back of my mind that says i may change my mind at some point in the future (i now its reversible but thats two surgeries instead of none). i dont think it would be responsible for me to have children in any future i can see for myself. lets just leave it at that.

ww0308 August 13 2009, 01:09:46 UTC

Probably wise to remain open to possibility. :)

Reversing a vasectomy is really expensive and not always possible. If you do get one, you should definitely put some sperm on ice first.

choadushouse August 12 2009, 04:51:24 UTC

BOTCH!

penisxcore August 12 2009, 04:58:49 UTC

yeah, youre probably the only one who got that

theliveofv August 18 2009, 06:13:02 UTC

Aw, it was sooo good to see you too! And by the way, Natalie would totally be into you. She said you were hot. Btw, why is it such a mind-fuck? We've been together for five years! Lol. I was kind of against marriage for a while there though...

Love you. Can't wait to see you again.

penisxcore August 25 2009, 04:20:21 UTC

hah. shes pretty hot too. ill just leave it at that for now as its a bit pointless and unrealistic to say anything else.

but its a mindfuck because when i met you, i would have never imagined you to be the first of my friends to get married. i know there are other people i know whove tied the knot before you, but not that i still have some healthy connection with.