Shock and Outrage

Nov 26, 2007 01:27

So, I'm getting pretty good at shocking tow-truck drivers. Tonight, I walked out of work to see I had a flat. The driver was pretty adamant about just putting air into the tire, stating that spares are only 'if you break down on the highway, because they're not very good.' That's when I told him my spare was a full size, that the first thing I ( Read more... )

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goodisrelative November 26 2007, 10:58:44 UTC
Haven't these people read Fahrenheit 451? The 1966 movie was pretty hysterical with the flying jetpack Book Police where you could SEE the wires holding them up, but the book was excellent.

And it is kinda funny you mention this since Twin and I were saying we wanted to see the movie and Aunt Flying Nun (who works in Canada) has read it... and the entire series.

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pixie_on_acid November 30 2007, 10:20:10 UTC
The scary thing is listening to people say: Yes, but they've got good reasons.

As 451 pointed out, explicitly: It doesn't matter how good your reasons, it's not a good road.

I want to see the movie, too, because the book was good. And it wasn't like the series said there was no God, just that the one everyone was so caught up in was a sham. The message was that it's better to be good for the sake of being good, rather than for any future rewards.

What really pisses me off is that the Catholic schools in Ontario are funded with public money. If they want to start banning things, they can pay for their private schools themselves.

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goodisrelative November 30 2007, 15:11:18 UTC
Yeah... we have that issue with the Catholic schools too... public funds pays for their books and such.

yup yup.

I'm pretty sure we read the book and then watch the movie... but that was 9th grade or so (1991).

People always have "good reasons," the problem is they are never as good as they think they are and they never look at what the consequences could be.

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lunardreamed November 26 2007, 12:51:42 UTC
Word. This is everything I feel about book banning/burning, but worded so well.

One of things that annoys me is that these are often the same people that don't think (other) families spend enough time together or with their kids. Where's all that family involvement when it comes to policing their own kids?

After all, Pullman doesn't believe there is any kind of God, so how could he write about a war with 'God' if he doesn't believe the entity exists, unless he made it up?

I always wonder how they reconcile such contradictions, but I suspect that they don't believe that atheists really don't believe in God but that atheism is a kind of war on God.

the thought of killing God is ludicrous, for He is all powerful and thus cannot be destroyed.Exactly. Surely their god and their faith can stand up to a little story ( ... )

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vflick November 26 2007, 14:42:32 UTC
atheists really don't believe in God but that atheism is a kind of war on God.

To be fair, for some atheists, that is the case. Or a war on Christians anyway. It'd not true of all athiests, certainly, but it is of some.

Banning Pullman is batshit insane though. Pix, your arguments are beautifully stated, thank you.

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pixie_on_acid November 30 2007, 10:26:44 UTC
To be fair, for some atheists, that is the case. Or a war on Christians anyway

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a better idea of how they think, then. Like I said, those questions are going to come up, and it might be better to teach kids ahead of time how to deal with them.

But yeah, some atheists are just as whacked as their counterparts from other religions.

I just really hate the banning of ideas. Better to prove the ideas stupid, than limit peoples' ability to think.

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lunardreamed November 26 2007, 23:25:17 UTC
Looks like they're thinking of pulling it from theaters, here.

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rabbit_the_wise November 26 2007, 18:05:22 UTC
word to the sheep - pretending things don't exist does not, in fact, make them not exist.

*mutters* sheep.

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pixie_on_acid November 30 2007, 10:55:21 UTC
It doesn't? You mean I still can get in trouble for not driving the speed limit? [/sarcasm]

And to think: Ontario taxpayers fund this pile of sheep. All we can hope for is that it becomes more popular, just because.

Not that I think it needs more exposure, but I just really, really hate it when people decide what's good for other people.

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pixie_on_acid November 30 2007, 11:04:36 UTC
*nods*

Yet it's amazing how many people say that because they're a religious school system, they should be able to do things like this. The trouble is, they're subsidized with public money.

In other words, people who don't agree with the religious schools and what they teach are still forced to fund them. To me, that's just wrong.

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