In New York

[porn_into_this]

I've been read as male probably 90% of the time. Only twice has someone called me 'she' and the first time they apologized once they 'realized I was a dude' and the second time it was a fag who through seeing my tattoo realized I was trans. What kind of wonderland is this? I keep feeling like it couldn't possibly be that my body and voice has

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[fall_of_sophia]

wow, I've always kind of figured that I would be vulnerable to being clocked-through-proximity in NYC (the two-tr*nny rule multiplied by a million or so).

hope you're having fun, tiger.

[porn_into_this]

I am! It's interesting, I've seen a lot of people that I've read as trans women, but compared to SF - fuck all trans guys. I think that's probably what is helping me pass.

[fall_of_sophia]

i guess i've come to feel like passing has a negative correlation with assumed likelihood of seeing a trans woman in a given place. like, i used to feel more afraid in rural areas, but now i kind of love them (okay what I really love is affecting my usually hidden southern belle-ness for social convention's sake). and anywhere near a ~gayborhood~? forget it. but now that i think about it i do know a few trans women in NYC who still manage more-or-less stealth without any ~work done~.

[estrobutch]

Are you sure its a NY thing or a not where your from thing?

NY's a big place. I get read about 60/40, cis male/cis female most of the time but then it flips the other way in queer bars and I get read 60/40 cis butch/ trans male (did I mention how much hearing about "butches and trans men" pisses me off.

[estrobutch]

And when in doubt, ppl don't risk calling a man "she" in most situations.

[porn_into_this]

re: 'butches and trans men' fucking tell me about it. I'm pretty feminine so it's interesting, sometimes I get read as a trans woman.

[estrobutch]

thats interesting. I don't know what you look like but do you think when people read you as a woman and trans they're also reading you as andro dyke or butch? I'm really used to expecting ppl to have zero clue that I'm trans female once they've decided i'm a butch.

[estrobutch]

And how long are you in town? My partner is involved with local sex worker rights groups if you wantedt to go to a mtg or whatever else they have going on.

[porn_into_this]

Oh I wish I'd talked to you earlier, I've been here a couple weeks but I'm leaving on Tuesday. I was interested in going to a SWOP meeting but I didn't get around to looking it up. Thanks though

[gentlemanjae]

that's awesome, i'm so glad you're experiencing that feeling.

sometimes i wonder if it even matters what city. i got clocked constantly in atlanta, but once i moved to san francisco i worked a job stealth and am read as male about 80-90% of the time unless i do something like go to a queer women's dance party. or the lex. or show my genitals on the internet.
i have to wonder if the second guessing myself is what gave me away. and i'm sure being in a smaller town with everyone in my life watching me transition also contributed.

[imyerjoeyramone]

hey buddy thats awesome im really glad you are doing so well. fuck i wish i was in nyc with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im hoping to come over again late next year! *fingerscrossed* xxxx