I'd like to think Teague was helping him but how could he possibly know the Pearl was on the QAR? He's mysterious and magical but that's a bit far fetched. Unless he knew what happened to the Pearl, its famous, word might have gotten back to shipwreck. Of course then he would've thought what Barbossa thought, lost forever.
Its been said he helped Jack out of the Turkish prison in DMC which is acceptable.
He can't have been a figment of Jack's imagination because he shot that solider.
Well, we know that Blackbeard was taking ships, a LOT of ships. And we know (per Barbossa) that he wasn't going by the Code. He could have known through Barbossa (who we could see running to Teague tattling/complaining about said violations) that Blackbeard had the Pearl among his collection. Teague would have a great stake in curtailing Blackbeard. The question would be how: confrontation or parlay? With sweetness or a sword?
That Teague helped Jack out of the Turkish prison is news, but not surprising or impossible. (C'mon. It's POTC. Nothing is impossible) The shot soldier could have been a part of the "figment". We know that Teague was quick to get away. The question is why? Was it a matter of "my job is done here" or "I don't want to stick around to see what's coming?"
Not being argumentative, just trying to organize the thoughts aloud... so to speak.
I think Teague knew at least about the impostor, if not about The Pearl on QAR. It looks for me, as if he'd prefer to keep aside and just watch. If he cared at all... The Fountain interests him more than matters at the tawern, doesn't it?
What strikes me more, is that his words about the Fountain 'testing' Jack turned out... well, didn't turn out at all. It wasn't Jack, who was tested there. Maybe I just don't see something here, but Teague seems to fail as a prophet. Or maybe Jack was 'tested' in the moment when he learns about the price (other's life) and then decides 'no, I don't want and I don't need'?
All this aside, indeed, the whole scene seems more as just 'Keith Richards is back!', than something really necessary and meaningful for the plot.
The test was probably how much Jack was willing to risk to keep Angelica from harm, and then having to bury the hatchet (so to speak) with Barbossa, a man he's tried to kill a couple of times, has taken his ship a couple of times and then sacrificed a limb in an attempt to save her.
As I said to someone else, the scene was clearly a platform for Richards, but it's still a part of the movie and therefore something to be considered. I never got the impression that Teague was interested in the FOY for his own purposes, but only to pass on what info he could... maybe to assure that a grander plan was successful.
Hmm, then it could be told 'the life/the fate will test you', as well... Too little connection with the Fountain, for me.
I never got the impression that Teague was interested in the FOY for his own purposes, but only to pass on what info he could... Ah, yes, with this I agree. I see now that I put it into wrong words, before. I mean: Teague tells only about the Fountain, so it's more important for him than the current matters at the tawern, but indeed, I don't think the Fountain is a goal for him. He just wants to warn Jack.
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Its been said he helped Jack out of the Turkish prison in DMC which is acceptable.
He can't have been a figment of Jack's imagination because he shot that solider.
its a great discussion piece *nods*
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That Teague helped Jack out of the Turkish prison is news, but not surprising or impossible. (C'mon. It's POTC. Nothing is impossible) The shot soldier could have been a part of the "figment". We know that Teague was quick to get away. The question is why? Was it a matter of "my job is done here" or "I don't want to stick around to see what's coming?"
Not being argumentative, just trying to organize the thoughts aloud... so to speak.
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What strikes me more, is that his words about the Fountain 'testing' Jack turned out... well, didn't turn out at all. It wasn't Jack, who was tested there. Maybe I just don't see something here, but Teague seems to fail as a prophet. Or maybe Jack was 'tested' in the moment when he learns about the price (other's life) and then decides 'no, I don't want and I don't need'?
All this aside, indeed, the whole scene seems more as just 'Keith Richards is back!', than something really necessary and meaningful for the plot.
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As I said to someone else, the scene was clearly a platform for Richards, but it's still a part of the movie and therefore something to be considered. I never got the impression that Teague was interested in the FOY for his own purposes, but only to pass on what info he could... maybe to assure that a grander plan was successful.
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I never got the impression that Teague was interested in the FOY for his own purposes, but only to pass on what info he could...
Ah, yes, with this I agree. I see now that I put it into wrong words, before. I mean: Teague tells only about the Fountain, so it's more important for him than the current matters at the tawern, but indeed, I don't think the Fountain is a goal for him. He just wants to warn Jack.
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If Teague was only there to warn Jack, then that would imply that he was out-and-about far more than what many have indicated.
Fun thoughts.
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