Snape is an asshole get over it.

[finmagik]

I'm sick of romantic!Snape, and rich!Snape. I'm sick of secretlybeautiful!Snape. And I'm also sick of Really-on-Dumbledores-side-he-asked-me-to-kill-him-honest!Snape. Especially when the above is served with a helping of wangst and Snape is crying silent silver tears and cutting himself. I like Snape because he a jerk, because he is self-serving,

Comments

[randomspectator]

Don't you think it would be a bit of a disappointment and anti-climax if it just turned out 'Harry was always right, Snape was evil, the end.' I don't know...it just seems like there was always something more to him than being so straightforward.

I wholeheartedly agree that he is a self-serving ugly git, but I like to think there's more complexity to him that just what we've been explicitly shown.

[finmagik]

I think he's complex but I don't think he's that complex. I see him as amoral and neutral mostly, only when there a event (i.e. the war) he was forced to pick a side. As I said above will Harry believe Snape when he catches him? Unless of course Dumbledore's spirit/portrait/memory tells him so from beyond the grave.

[phorcys]

heart of gold?Snape where it's discoverd that the crusty old potions teacher is really a nice guy who has been hiding this because he didn't want to be hurt.
Blarrghh

How many stories have Snape as actually ugly, his skin isn't sallow and sickly its pale and interesting, his hair isn't greasy and unkempt it's dark and lusterous, his nose it's large it's distinguished.

[finmagik]

Thank you, I like this.

[purpleygirl]

I totally agree with your romantic!Snape and handsome!Snape arguments. Rickman goggles again. And the rich!Snapes are just downright silly, post-HBP.

But I have to disagree with your last (and main) point. I for one am sick of people saying how evil Snape must be and failing to see the parallel with Harry poisoning Dumbledore and hating it. As Hermione said, evil is a strong word. I suspect that Rowling used this as a get-out clause for Snape regarding Harry's wrath for Snape. Harry's the asshole, if anyone, for being so frickin' blind through six books. o_0

[kerosinkanister]

Harry's the asshole, if anyone, for being so frickin' blind through six books.

Snape was an ass to Harry from day one. He, as an adult, held a grudge for Harry's father's sins. But I don't think he's evil, irredeemable. I think he's still working for the good guys even though he isn't a good person.

[purpleygirl]

Yes, Snape's a nasty person, but not a nasty piece of work. But my problem with Harry is he never even considers that, let alone says it. He and Ron always assume Snape is leading Dumbledore up the garden path and 'softening' Harry up for Voldemort. "He's nasty but he's on our side" -- that's all it would have taken.

But then, I guess, where's the mystery to be had from that? :/

I suppose Harry has just taken his prejudices from Sirius and James. Lupin seems to be a little more level-headed about Snape, neither liking him nor disliking him.

[kerosinkanister]

I'd say the trio in general are fairly self-righteous. An example would be Zacharias Smith. I don't think he was a jerk, at least not initially, just wondering about Cedric's death. Ron and the twins jump down his throat and from then on Harry doesn't like Smith. Take Hermione and Ron. She's hugely upset because he picks another girl and stops talking to him without considering that she may have been at least partially to blame for pushing him towards Lav. And Harry overlooks things the twins and Ginny do that he would find upsetting if a Slytherin got away with.

So it doesn't surprise me that they see Snape in terms of black and white. Sirius said something like "the world isn't divided between good people and Death Eaters", a lesson they apparently disregarded.

[beyond_pale]

The ring killed Dumbledore; it's only thanks to Snape that he hung on all year. And the potion would eventually have been fatal. And then Harry would be emotionally crippled blaming himself. And, unlike how his parents, Sirius, Cedric, and Dumbledore died, he would be DIRECTLY to blame for this one. That is not something he needs to deal with at the moment

[xilaria]

Amen to that.

[cmwinters]

And having said and agreed to everything you say, I think the OP is right - Harry won't believe him in any case.

But yes, I think Severus Snape is *FAR MORE* Dumbledore's Man than Harry Potter could ever hope to be, because, AFAIC, Snape does what he does with his eyes wide open - Harry rushes into it blindly.

In my defence (and in beyond_pale's defence) - Jo apparently sees it this way, too.

[xilaria]

But yes, I think Severus Snape is *FAR MORE* Dumbledore's Man than Harry Potter could ever hope to be, because, AFAIC, Snape does what he does with his eyes wide open - Harry rushes into it blindly.

I couldn't agree with you more on this.

[finmagik]

I like your rant very well put.