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Aug 21, 2005 14:22

I don't know how many of you are aware that I identify as Atheist. It's not something I discuss a lot in my journal, although I have considered myself one for quite some time. It's only relevant now because of a post a friend made this morning about how she is not Atheist. The post was quite interesting given the reasoning presented for why she can ( Read more... )

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jayesdmf August 21 2005, 21:40:30 UTC
I am a firm disbeliever in the existence of God, and damn proud of it.

which doesn't quite explain why I married a devout southern baptist...

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psygirl August 21 2005, 21:43:35 UTC
hahaha. I always say "I hold very strong beliefs about my believing in nothing!"

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jayesdmf August 21 2005, 22:02:24 UTC
i will say this though, there is a god, it lives on my countertop, and makes me coffee every morning.

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kliq August 21 2005, 21:40:56 UTC
Your post made me forget about something I was going to post about.

Recently I was talking to my mom on the phone and she had thought I was an atheist which I found really interesting. I'm not, I'm just against organized religion. All of 'em.

What do I hate more than organized religion? People who impose their beliefs on others. The people that beat their drums for Islam, Christianity, Aethism, anything. Religion (or lack thereof) should be a personal quest. I don't wanna hear about your personal beliefs if I don't know you. I think the world would be a lot better off if they followed this policy.

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some rants jayesdmf August 21 2005, 21:59:10 UTC
my question is.. what purpose does any religion hold in today's society? It doesn't, as far as I'm concerned. Religion to me is nothing more than genocidal brainwashing. It's forced onto the masses with promises of abject torture by the hand of the very spirit that supposedly loves you.

You hand me any literature on any mythology (yeah, refer to christianity as mythology and prepare to be judged by the ones that should not lest they be judged themselves) and I'll poke so many holes in it, it would go great on your next sammich. Your beliefs would hold alot more water if you gave me something that was, at least, consistant in it's teachings. The christian bible has so many loopholes and different accounts, it's not funny.

And why does christianity exist? To the believers, it is to "serve god". Didn't he create angels for this purpose? I guess that makes the human race comic relief for the dieties.

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Re: some rants kliq August 21 2005, 22:09:12 UTC
Mmmmm a bible sammich.

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Re: some rants jayesdmf August 21 2005, 22:16:13 UTC
wash it down with some jesus juice!

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lokidecat August 21 2005, 22:03:10 UTC
I have a hard time debating this with anyone, really. I have a pretty good idea of my beliefs. I am a self-classified Agnostic Apathetic. I don't know, and I don't care. It isn't that believe in the existence of a diety or not, it is that I don't pay the subject much creedence anymore ( ... )

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funsocaltiger August 21 2005, 23:43:40 UTC
God damn Christians.

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psynut August 22 2005, 00:30:44 UTC
So, a sea of non-believers... the oceans will run red with tartar sauce.

I consider myself an Existential Christian. I'm uncertain of the truth behind the historical Jesus of the Bible - I do believe in the truth found in the benefits of his teachings according to the Gospels.

As opposed to kliq, though many in this society do not see a need for religion in this society - I think there's an even greater need in a society that is looking to operate secularly. All that alienation and apathy and disenchantment that people go on about in our post-post-modern society - I think it comes from a disowning of anything religious and spiritual. The disenfranchisement's well understood with terrible travesties all done in the name of one god or another, the hiding and perverting of scientific facts to preserve a religion, and the need to compromise one's beliefs, and thusly many's beliefs, in order to live in a society where everyone can get along. What religion can that possibly leave a person? I believe in order to overcome that general crappy ( ... )

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gelasia August 22 2005, 02:08:09 UTC
possibly, i got it.

maybe to word it in other terms, that the denial of someone's faith, in a negative way, is the contributing factor of the de-evolution of society... not that faith itself has done that.

science is god dissecting itself. i think it rocks, and don't understand why faith and science cannot be one.

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psynut August 22 2005, 06:39:41 UTC
I don't know why so many people have trouble reconciling science and faith, either... of all the issues surrounding this stuff... it seems such an easy thing to do.

Word.

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wuweibaby August 22 2005, 00:23:32 UTC
i know exactly what you're saying ( ... )

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psygirl August 22 2005, 01:20:34 UTC
that's really interesting. like i said, i've also experienced moments of intense spiritual bliss, feelings of complete oneness with the universe, and other similar moments of clarity, although for me i never associated these experiences with a god of any kind. i understand where you're coming from a lot better now though, thanks for taking the time to clarify your position. :)

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