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Sep 03, 2008 11:23

Sometimes I wish I could find a political candidate that is closer to my beliefs on the issues. I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

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rwitte42 September 3 2008, 18:51:47 UTC
I thought I was an oddball for being fiscally conservative and socially liberal, but you've really got a tough list to fill!

Ron Paul might be a good fit for you, but he's a dark horse at best.

I think you will be hard-pressed to find a candidate who is both socially liberal and pro-life in the current political climate. Those are distinctly different base constituencies. As is often the case, I expect you'll have to prioritize your list and choose the lesser evil.

I was supporting Ron Paul earlier in the race, but given his two chances (slim and none) I'm hopping on the Obama/Biden bandwagon.

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questaree September 3 2008, 20:56:01 UTC
I wanted Ron Paul too.

Now I'm torn because I like Obama, but prefer Palin as a vp.

I will probably go for Obama mainly because I am so sick of Bush, but that's not really a good reason to go for a candidate.

When it comes right down to action instead of rhetoric, I often get the impression that both parties are the same.

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rwitte42 September 3 2008, 21:30:21 UTC
Interesting. I would like to understand what you find compelling about Palin? Is it her gender? That she is very much a Washington outsider? That she's more like the common folk than the usual upper-class folks that run?

I must agree with you. At the end of the day, I think both parties are pretty much full of crap. I think the political process takes smart, honest, compelling people and taints them before they can take office. If we really want good leadership, I think the answer lies not in finding the perfect candidate but in changing the process by which they are elected.

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questaree September 4 2008, 00:23:51 UTC
It's that she is a mother and has made the hard choices that she stands for, including carrying a down's baby to term. Everything I've found so far on her record indicates that she doesn't back down when she believes in something. I find it refreshing. I do worry a bit about her being untried in a larger arena, but so far everything else outweighs that concern.

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msmercedes September 4 2008, 02:19:35 UTC
I say go discover your own country and start from scratch. That will be easier than trying to find a canidate that one has all those thoughts, and two the guts to carry them out, and the hardest could get elected.

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p.s. msmercedes September 4 2008, 02:20:54 UTC
With incest and rape I totally think it's more than accaptable to get an abortion, but shouldn't be the standard. Again their choice. I know if I was raped or the like I'd want that demon spawn out of me faster than you can say day after pill.

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ixaradius September 4 2008, 09:30:54 UTC
Something stuck in my craw about your pro-life argument.....can you really go so far as to put your sense of morality on another? I mean, it is their own karma right? Could you really vie in for a candidate that would step in and say something is wrong such as that and with so much debate on the subject?

For what I know of you, this is either a non well-worded part or I really do not know you.

Abortion has been happening since the beginning of time and will continue throughout the ages...the question then becomes the implement, whether it be a coat hanger or a scalpel. Shouldn't it be their choice of karma or essential rightness that would decide for themselves what is right and wrong? Not your own viewpoint that would censor it before they got to the point of their own opinion?

that seems a bit too arrogant of you, I have to say...

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questaree September 4 2008, 14:23:38 UTC
Most people who consider abortion would still agree that murder is wrong. If a pregnant woman gets murdered, the murderer can get charged with 2 counts of murder and 2 counts of civil rights violations. There is a double standard. On the issue of murder, with or without justification, it's still something that we, in this society, have judged as wrong. That person will have that life on their karma, same as with abortion. Yes, I could vie for a pro-life candidate. No, I don't find it arrogant. As a culture, as a society, we have to have a certain agreed upon morality to prevent the slide into anarchy. Humans are not meant to live in such large communities and the sense of right and wrong is part of why it works as well as it does.

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ixaradius September 22 2008, 15:45:55 UTC
The first about a double charge on the murderer is a human construct. But the intention of a person willing to take another conscious life is a different situation from an abortion, thought very similar, I will agree with you on that. Also the issue that murder, with or without justification is wrong is another fallacy. We kill other people and have the right to it if that person is considered "bad ( ... )

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