:) The Summers sisters FTW - it just makes me sad and stabby that people hate both characters; and/or that people focus on Dawn's relationship to Spike to the absolute exclusion of her relationship with Buffy. I mean, Buffy gave up her LIFE to save her sister (and the world). It's like you said, sisterly love trumps everything
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the series was actually getting more interesting when it concentrated on the sisters and their relationship, as well as their reversals of fortune rather than plot mechanics
Agreed! I was so sad that they didn't develop it to my satisfaction, especially Siobhan's side. I really liked that moment when Bridget found her "confession" in the chess table. I wish they'd elaborated on that more.
There is SOMETHING about Sarah's voice, and it's not the sort of voice I usually am attracted to in women; I tend to prefer huskier, deeper voices, and her's is anything but.
IDK I think it does sometimes have a husky quality. Or maybe raspy? >> lolol. But yes -- just. Sarah's appearance and voice and presence kind of stick out. Which may well be why I like her.
Fierce, protective warrior mamas FTW.
Definitely!
And one of my other favorite shows was Dead Like Me, have you seen that?
I tried, but didn't get through the first episode, I think. Watching things is hard on the brain sometimes, which is why it usually takes me a long time. :(
I was so sad that they didn't develop it to my satisfaction, especially Siobhan's side. I really liked that moment when Bridget found her "confession" in the chess table. I wish they'd elaborated on that more.YES. When they just started digging deeper with that was when I got into it: the flashback of Siobhan's expression when she gets the necklace from Bridget in the mail; Bridget wishing on the phone to Malcolm that she could have forgiven whats-his-name as herself, not as her sister. THAT was interesting to me: deconstructing Malcolm's rather simplistic notions of forgiveness - paging Giles in IOHIFY. "forgiveness", the need of it, the inability to give it, is at the heart of the sisters' shared arc. Saying "I forgive you" doesn't necessarily signify true forgiveness any more than "I love you" signifies true love. You CAN'T force forgiveness, although you can work towards it; it's still a process & will or won't happen when you're not looking for it or trying anymore
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Snoopy addendum on someone else's conversation: watch Lost. I think of Jack in the same way I think of Riley: I genuinely like the guy, he just makes some dickish choices and I really don't ship him with anyone. Also on Netflix
OH AND SEE IF YOU CAN DOWNLOAD SEASON 1 OF ORPHAN BLACK. BEST THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG, LONG TIME.
You had recommended Lost for Kate's story back on my Ted meta didn't you? I still haven't gotten to it. (My sweetie and I tend to watch a series on Netflix all the way through, then move on to the next one when we're done. We're watching Crossing Jordan right now. She used to only want to watch comedies but you know what? Most comedies suck IMO.)
SEASON 1 OF ORPHAN BLACK.
I confess I've never heard of it, but thanks for the rec! *runs to look it up*
ETA: speaking of dickish choices, I like Garrett Macy on Crossing Jordan quite a bit, but boy is he messed up when it comes to the women in his life. I love him and Renee Walcott together because they are so well-paired; she is tough, whip-smart, and calls him on his shit. (I'm only in S3, though, so I don't know if they go anywhere with those two.)
the Dru/Buffy picspam meta I'm working on right now is starting to grow by monstrous proportions. Edvard Munch, fear of female sexuality and all that jazz. What's on your plate?
I just got a notification in my email inbox! And yes I looked but haven't commented yet. You are so sweet *hugs*
(That is one feature of LJ I really do appreciate -but it doesn't always occur. If someone mentions my name, then yes; but name plus link to one of my posts? No. I guess because I already get those notifications in the comments themselves.)
That picspam sounds beautiful. *-* Dru/Buffy as in, parallels between the two?Yes, but it started small (Buffybot in Bargaining and "I'll chop her into messes") and has grown from there to include Edvard Munch, and Sheila, and the notion of Dru and Buffy as "seers" but also women and madness in the verse, and - yeah. I'm beginning to think I'm biting off more than I can chew. Maybe I need to cut it in half or do it in parts
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I just got a notification in my email inbox! And yes I looked but haven't commented yet. You are so sweet *hugs*
NO YOU ♥
Btw I've been getting notifs of you mentioning me all over the place over time and I just think it is so cute. :)
Yes, but it started small (Buffybot in Bargaining and "I'll chop her into messes") and has grown from there to include Edvard Munch, and Sheila, and the notion of Dru and Buffy as "seers" but also women and madness in the verse, and - yeah. I'm beginning to think I'm biting off more than I can chew. Maybe I need to cut it in half or do it in parts.
GO FOR IT this sounds super interesting and like a facet that hasn't been explored a lot yet. Though Dru and Buffy have often been paralleled, but the focus on how they affected by Angelus/what role they played in relation to him. (I.e. Drusilla as a prototype for what he planned with Buffy in S2.) I'd really love to see a focus on them as "seers".
This is really a challenge for me because I'm used to writing metas, whereas picspam-metas are sort of new
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I just am big on the linking and referencing - I guess that's what I learned in college. Well, everyone did when it comes to that, but I guess it's natural to me? Like, someone mentions a subject and I know someone else has written about it or I was just having that same conversation with someone else? Referring to that person/post seems easier than reconstructing the conversation, whether or not that person actually looks at it. And also when I like someone's writing or artwork or ideas and I think more people should know about them and join the conversation.
Anyhoo, I can live with "cute". *lol*
Though Dru and Buffy have often been paralleled, but the focus on how they affected by Angelus/what role they played in relation to him.
I almost think of the men more generically in some ways if that makes sense? Like, this could become Spike-centric and I'm trying to avoid that, but I haven't thought about Angelus all that much.
(I.e. Drusilla as a prototype for what he planned with Buffy in S2.)I
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1/2 here we go again...lanoyeeJuly 3 2013, 17:44:19 UTC
I just am big on the linking and referencing - I guess that's what I learned in college. Well, everyone did when it comes to that, but I guess it's natural to me? Like, someone mentions a subject and I know someone else has written about it or I was just having that same conversation with someone else? Referring to that person/post seems easier than reconstructing the conversation, whether or not that person actually looks at it.
*nodnod* I see what you mean! Interesting that that is your immediate association upon my comment though. 8D Ahhh, college. It's gonna stay with me forever, isn't it.
And also when I like someone's writing or artwork or ideas and I think more people should know about them and join the conversation.So I guess what I mean by "cute" is also "heartwarming" -- because it does so warm my heart that you think my ideas are share-worthy. :) I am actually really shy about voicing my ideas because I have no confidence in them, which is one of the big personal problems I'm currently grappling with, I think. With you,
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Re: 1/2 here we go again...red_satin_dollJuly 5 2013, 23:14:23 UTC
Interesting that that is your immediate association upon my comment though
I don't know that it was an IMMEDIATE association, maybe me grasping for straws actually. Lots of people in this fandom have gone to college and don't do that, so I guess it's just a "me" thing. But my brain likes connections; even when I was in college and gave house parties, I would try to invite people from all the "different areas" of my life who didn't know each other already, and it usually made things more interesting. More connections made. Like, "cross-curriculum" but the social RL version. ;)
So I guess what I mean by "cute" is also "heartwarming" -- because it does so warm my heart that you think my ideas are share-worthy.
It's really hard for me to accept compliments! But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy them.
I am actually really shy about voicing my ideas because I have no confidence in them, which is one of the big personal problems I'm currently grappling with, I think. That's me in a nutshell! And I've been grappling with it for decades,
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Because that fear of female sexuality is very Victorian, and a lot of btvs and the treatment of female sexuality in it makes sense. even with the comics. It reminds me of the creation of the femme fatale in the late 19th century by men who were nervous about feminism, about immigrants and blacks, who made women monstrous, the whole saving one's seed and copulating only for reproduction, blah blah bitty blah....Being afraid of female sexuality, imaging vaginas have little teeth, that men will be devoured as helpless victims, is the most bizarre notion to me. A professor from Scotland jokingly called it "sexy death" but it's a pretty sick joke.
If someone is afraid of female sexuality, if they're afraid of sex, then that indicates to me a fear of life, not death, or a confusion of the two because sexuality (and sensuality) are core components of life. We wouldn't be here without it, right?True! And yet, sex is so often conflated with death (see: Freud. See also: why I can't take Freud seriously). Which I feel is strongly connected to
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Re: 2/3, actually.red_satin_dollJuly 3 2013, 19:31:45 UTC
See also: why I can't take Freud seriously
I've read a couple of Alice Miller's books (author of "the Drama of the Gifted Child") including the one in which she outlined why she was no longer a Freudian psychotherapist: she began to take a good hard look at the sexism of her field and Freud's theories. His original ideas had been much more "feminist" in nature and I'd say more accurate; he took his patients' reports of sexual abuse much more seriously, but was encouraged by peers to alter his theories to fit current male-dominated ideas: female patients were hysterical, in love with their fathers and making it all up. I was in a performance art class in college when one of the other students did a performance spouting ridiculous notions about women, as if she were a man, and we were all laughing at the stupidity of the ideas until we began to realize that she was reciting Freud; then an uneasy hush fell over the class. Ouch.
I mean, into whom is the lesson that sex is scary and dangerous pounded more vigorously than into young
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Re: 2/3, actually.lanoyeeJuly 3 2013, 21:35:51 UTC
until we began to realize that she was reciting Freud; then an uneasy hush fell over the class. Ouch.
Ow. Ow. Ouch indeed.
His original ideas had been much more "feminist" in nature and I'd say more accurate; he took his patients' reports of sexual abuse much more seriously, but was encouraged by peers to alter his theories to fit current male-dominated ideas
That is really interesting, actually. I'll have to look her up.
they've learned to masturbate
Wasn't male masturbation extremely frowned upon for a while, though? I think I read/heard things to that effect. Of course, I doubt that at that time, people were aware female masturbation was even possible, because no way would a woman have sexual urges unless she's a whore, of course. :|
Our bodies, our genitals, our menstruation, is a dirty shameful secret. I never heard the worlds "labia" & "clictoris" until i was in college in the late '80's. "Down there" was the source of blood, piss and shit, someplace dirty and forbidden. It was near the area my stepfather spanked me with a
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Agreed! I was so sad that they didn't develop it to my satisfaction, especially Siobhan's side. I really liked that moment when Bridget found her "confession" in the chess table. I wish they'd elaborated on that more.
There is SOMETHING about Sarah's voice, and it's not the sort of voice I usually am attracted to in women; I tend to prefer huskier, deeper voices, and her's is anything but.
IDK I think it does sometimes have a husky quality. Or maybe raspy? >> lolol. But yes -- just. Sarah's appearance and voice and presence kind of stick out. Which may well be why I like her.
Fierce, protective warrior mamas FTW.
Definitely!
And one of my other favorite shows was Dead Like Me, have you seen that?
I tried, but didn't get through the first episode, I think. Watching things is hard on the brain sometimes, which is why it usually takes me a long time. :(
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OH AND SEE IF YOU CAN DOWNLOAD SEASON 1 OF ORPHAN BLACK. BEST THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG, LONG TIME.
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SEASON 1 OF ORPHAN BLACK.
I confess I've never heard of it, but thanks for the rec! *runs to look it up*
ETA: speaking of dickish choices, I like Garrett Macy on Crossing Jordan quite a bit, but boy is he messed up when it comes to the women in his life. I love him and Renee Walcott together because they are so well-paired; she is tough, whip-smart, and calls him on his shit. (I'm only in S3, though, so I don't know if they go anywhere with those two.)
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Also hi. :3
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the Dru/Buffy picspam meta I'm working on right now is starting to grow by monstrous proportions. Edvard Munch, fear of female sexuality and all that jazz. What's on your plate?
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That picspam sounds beautiful. *-* Dru/Buffy as in, parallels between the two?
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I just got a notification in my email inbox! And yes I looked but haven't commented yet. You are so sweet *hugs*
(That is one feature of LJ I really do appreciate -but it doesn't always occur. If someone mentions my name, then yes; but name plus link to one of my posts? No. I guess because I already get those notifications in the comments themselves.)
That picspam sounds beautiful. *-* Dru/Buffy as in, parallels between the two?Yes, but it started small (Buffybot in Bargaining and "I'll chop her into messes") and has grown from there to include Edvard Munch, and Sheila, and the notion of Dru and Buffy as "seers" but also women and madness in the verse, and - yeah. I'm beginning to think I'm biting off more than I can chew. Maybe I need to cut it in half or do it in parts ( ... )
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NO YOU ♥
Btw I've been getting notifs of you mentioning me all over the place over time and I just think it is so cute. :)
Yes, but it started small (Buffybot in Bargaining and "I'll chop her into messes") and has grown from there to include Edvard Munch, and Sheila, and the notion of Dru and Buffy as "seers" but also women and madness in the verse, and - yeah. I'm beginning to think I'm biting off more than I can chew. Maybe I need to cut it in half or do it in parts.
GO FOR IT this sounds super interesting and like a facet that hasn't been explored a lot yet. Though Dru and Buffy have often been paralleled, but the focus on how they affected by Angelus/what role they played in relation to him. (I.e. Drusilla as a prototype for what he planned with Buffy in S2.) I'd really love to see a focus on them as "seers".
This is really a challenge for me because I'm used to writing metas, whereas picspam-metas are sort of new ( ... )
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I just am big on the linking and referencing - I guess that's what I learned in college. Well, everyone did when it comes to that, but I guess it's natural to me? Like, someone mentions a subject and I know someone else has written about it or I was just having that same conversation with someone else? Referring to that person/post seems easier than reconstructing the conversation, whether or not that person actually looks at it. And also when I like someone's writing or artwork or ideas and I think more people should know about them and join the conversation.
Anyhoo, I can live with "cute". *lol*
Though Dru and Buffy have often been paralleled, but the focus on how they affected by Angelus/what role they played in relation to him.
I almost think of the men more generically in some ways if that makes sense? Like, this could become Spike-centric and I'm trying to avoid that, but I haven't thought about Angelus all that much.
(I.e. Drusilla as a prototype for what he planned with Buffy in S2.)I ( ... )
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*nodnod* I see what you mean! Interesting that that is your immediate association upon my comment though. 8D Ahhh, college. It's gonna stay with me forever, isn't it.
And also when I like someone's writing or artwork or ideas and I think more people should know about them and join the conversation.So I guess what I mean by "cute" is also "heartwarming" -- because it does so warm my heart that you think my ideas are share-worthy. :) I am actually really shy about voicing my ideas because I have no confidence in them, which is one of the big personal problems I'm currently grappling with, I think. With you, ( ... )
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I don't know that it was an IMMEDIATE association, maybe me grasping for straws actually. Lots of people in this fandom have gone to college and don't do that, so I guess it's just a "me" thing. But my brain likes connections; even when I was in college and gave house parties, I would try to invite people from all the "different areas" of my life who didn't know each other already, and it usually made things more interesting. More connections made. Like, "cross-curriculum" but the social RL version. ;)
So I guess what I mean by "cute" is also "heartwarming" -- because it does so warm my heart that you think my ideas are share-worthy.
It's really hard for me to accept compliments! But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy them.
I am actually really shy about voicing my ideas because I have no confidence in them, which is one of the big personal problems I'm currently grappling with, I think. That's me in a nutshell! And I've been grappling with it for decades, ( ... )
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If someone is afraid of female sexuality, if they're afraid of sex, then that indicates to me a fear of life, not death, or a confusion of the two because sexuality (and sensuality) are core components of life. We wouldn't be here without it, right?True! And yet, sex is so often conflated with death (see: Freud. See also: why I can't take Freud seriously). Which I feel is strongly connected to ( ... )
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I've read a couple of Alice Miller's books (author of "the Drama of the Gifted Child") including the one in which she outlined why she was no longer a Freudian psychotherapist: she began to take a good hard look at the sexism of her field and Freud's theories. His original ideas had been much more "feminist" in nature and I'd say more accurate; he took his patients' reports of sexual abuse much more seriously, but was encouraged by peers to alter his theories to fit current male-dominated ideas: female patients were hysterical, in love with their fathers and making it all up. I was in a performance art class in college when one of the other students did a performance spouting ridiculous notions about women, as if she were a man, and we were all laughing at the stupidity of the ideas until we began to realize that she was reciting Freud; then an uneasy hush fell over the class. Ouch.
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Ow. Ow. Ouch indeed.
His original ideas had been much more "feminist" in nature and I'd say more accurate; he took his patients' reports of sexual abuse much more seriously, but was encouraged by peers to alter his theories to fit current male-dominated ideas
That is really interesting, actually. I'll have to look her up.
they've learned to masturbate
Wasn't male masturbation extremely frowned upon for a while, though? I think I read/heard things to that effect. Of course, I doubt that at that time, people were aware female masturbation was even possible, because no way would a woman have sexual urges unless she's a whore, of course. :|
Our bodies, our genitals, our menstruation, is a dirty shameful secret. I never heard the worlds "labia" & "clictoris" until i was in college in the late '80's. "Down there" was the source of blood, piss and shit, someplace dirty and forbidden. It was near the area my stepfather spanked me with a ( ... )
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